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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-13 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 25, 2013.

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  1. ep1974

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    Waiting for 2016 when apparentely every channel will be in HD. In the mean time, hoping for Reelz HD, Fox Movie Channel HD and Military Channel HD.
     
  2. inkahauts

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    Where did you get the idea every channel will be in Hi Definition in 2016, or at any point in time period.There has never once been a mandate for every station to be in Hi Definition from anyone in anyway.
     
  3. MysteryMan

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    At the 2012 Euroconsult conference Philip J. Goswitz, DirecTV's Senior Vice President for Space and Communications stated all standard-def channels would be converted to HDTV by 2016 using local-into-local Ka-Band capacity.
     
  4. inkahauts

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    Oh that. Had forgotten about that one. Well, take that with a giant grain of salt. I seriously doubt you will see all channels in true hd, and there's no way they will stop broadcasting sd channels in 2016 either. Do we really think they are going to bother with dog tv in hd till they get hd capable equipment in everyone's homes? There isn't enough time for them to replace everyone's set top boxes by then.

    I'd bet more money on every channel being available in mpeg4 than in hd by 2016

    I just hope that by 2016, they have begun the transition of eliminating all mpeg2 only boxes.
     
  5. HoTat2

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    Now ... if we can only figure out everything Goswitz's really means in that well publicized statement? :scratch:

    First I'm pretty sure he meant "CONUS" Ka band capacity, not "Local-in'Local" in the later portion of his statement.

    But as for the rest ... does he mean all remaining SD channels by 2016 without HD versions will be moved to the Ka band in MPEG-4 SD format?

    Or that all remaining SD channels without HD versions by '16 will be up-converted to an HD format for carriage in MPEG-4 on the Ka band?
     
  6. KyL416

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    A very vague statement that makes no sense at all on multiple levels:
    - They're in the midst of a program that's distributing SD only receivers to the remaining customers who have older receivers that use the old MPG guide system.
    - They're still doing SD only installs with round 18 inch dishes as well as still offering SD only receivers to existing subscribers
    - Considering the numerous SD only channels out there with no plans to go HD in the near future, there wouldn't be enough bandwidth on the spot beams to carry them all, especially if according to that wording they plan to upconvert them all to HD.
    - Moving all those SD religious and non-commercial channels that are in the 360s-370s range off of 101 to Ka-Band LIL would violate the P/I quota requirement.
    - There's multiple areas in the country that are considered "unserved" for LIL service because of where the spot beam ends compared to the shape of the market. (i.e. Columbia County, NY)

    Maybe he was just referring to the remaining SD locals, although only using Ka-Band to do it wouldn't have any benefit capacity wise since the Ku-Band spotbeams don't have a national footprint. Or he simply mispoke and meant to say all locals will be converted to MPEG4 by then.
     
  7. inkahauts

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    I think he meant that they will compliy by offering any hd local in hd if they offer one local in hd for any given market.

    I also think he meant they will offer a hd version of any channel that has a hd signal that they carry, assuming that the contracts will let them.

    And I think that he is saying eventually, they will slowly begin the process of moving everyone off mpeg2 only equipment and to mpeg4 equipment, so that they can eventually begin shutting off sd duplicates at 101 so they may slowly start using that bandwidth for Ultrahd, if they don't use any of the bandwidth on d14 and d15 for it before hand. Although I expect that d14 and d15 will be for more expansion of current offerings, including a lot more on demand.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they don't kill premium channel sd channels that have hd channels first, freeing up enough room for a couple ultra channels. (via a trade in program to genies) I'd imagine most the premier subs have HD equipment in their house already. But I don't see them starting that for a couple more years at least anyway.
     
  8. JoeTheDragon

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    what about moving NFL ST TO HD only? but then they may need to give bars free HD boxes and maybe help them buy new HD switchers as well.
     
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    Using LIL doesn't make sense in that statement. On one hand Cables SDV comes to mind. But spot beams are too large to cover an area the size of a cable node. Plus not everyone is Internet connected, so the receiver couldn't "talk back" to request the channel.

    For an MPEG4 swap, what about all the big accounts like hospitality setups, public venues, schools, hospitals, etc? Do the ProIdiom systems support mpeg4? Sure it needs to be done, but they'd have to start now if they want it done in the next 10 years.
     
  10. inkahauts

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    The one way it might make sense is if they move all sd locals to 99 and 103 in a mpeg4 format of some kind, then they could shut of the locals broadcast from 101 and use that bandwidth for conus transponders. However, if they do that, then everyone would be mpeg4 and they could kill all sd dups, so yeah, it seems so vague of a statement from him.
     
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    I haven't looked at it in a while, but wasn't there that "must carry" ruling that all LiL must be in HD (if you had one) by a certain date. That was my first thought when reading the comment above.
     
  12. ep1974

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    Yes, that one. No one can be sure, but that's what I was referring to.
     
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    And unless Goswitz is implying new Ku band satellites for 101 along with changes to the ITU AP30/30A standards for the 12.2-12.7 GHz DBS band.

    I still don't see how they expect to run Ultra HD or some other through only 24 MHz wide transponders.

    Even with improved prospective compression standards like HEVC.
     
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    And unless Goswitz is implying new Ku band satellites for 101 along with changes to the ITU AP30/30A standards for the 12.2-12.7 GHz DBS band.

    I still don't see how they expect to run Ultra HD or some other through only 24 MHz wide transponders.

    Even with improved prospective compression standards like HEVC.


    Why, cable proponents are claiming HEVC can fit 2 4K streams in only 6 MHz... SIX MHZ!
     
  15. JoeTheDragon

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    Maybe an SDV like system for PPV movies but right now alot of PPV room used for RSN over flow and other events.

    Maybe for stuff like NON remapped feeds in NBA LP, NHL CI, MLB EI.
     
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    WWE Network hasn't even launched as a channel ANYWHERE...
    once it starts programming, you would see press releases from WWE..

    Directv only adds existing channels
     
  17. chough95

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    Just your idea, or do you have a source? Either way, I like it.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    Ah actually that's not true. They've launched Chanels In the past. It's entirely possible.
     
  19. RunnerFL

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    Isn't QVC one of those channels that has to pay DirecTV to be carried instead of DirecTV paying QVC to carry them?
     
  20. Santi360HD

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    sure hope you didnt mean the hispanic community is growing because of porn..

    sure hope thats part of Galavision being seen in test
     
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