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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-13 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 25, 2013.

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  1. Aug 9, 2013 #401 of 793

    chough95 New Member

    May 28, 2013
    Well, this article gives up one of the worst kept secrets in the TV world. FS2 is coming. Even though FS1 is requiring a new carriage agreement, I've read that FS2 will not, and that the transition should be seamless on August 17th. Still hoping that Directv can work out an agreement for FS1 SOON!!

  2. Aug 9, 2013 #402 of 793

    JohnBoy New Member

    Sep 8, 2011
    I would like to see Primetime Fox OnDemand added into the mix if Directv has to negotiate a new carrige agreement for FS1 with Fox.

    Now is the time, as Fox is the only thing basically left missing from the Ondemand list.

    Get R Done!
  3. Aug 9, 2013 #403 of 793

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    Funny that fuse HD would be in stretch-o-vision;

    As the SD feed DIRECTV has for it on ch. 339 appears to be un-stretched and a simple down-conversion of an HD version to 16:9 SD letter-box.

    Or it displays as a window-box image on an HDTV.
  4. Aug 9, 2013 #404 of 793
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    On DISH FUSE HD is clear 16:9 in HD and fuzzy 16:9 letterboxed in SD (including the commercials). If that is upconverted SD then they are doing something bad to the SD to make it look horrible.

    There may be some upconverted content ... most HD channels have some ... although most have worked away from SD upconverts as much as possible.
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  5. APB101

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    Sep 1, 2010
    I've seen Fuse HD on both Comcast and AT&T U-verse systems. Picture is solid. What I viewed was in-studio production and it was as good as what one can see on MTV HD and VH1 HD.

    We TV HD, also from AMC Networks, looked really sharp. When I caught it, one program I viewed was of Joan Rivers and another had to do with cooking. Solid picture quality with We TV HD.

    I have to say that I figure this express concern over programmers' picture quality isn't much an issue anymore. Of what has come in the last year or so in basics, DirecTV had no problem with the likes of IFC HD (also from AMC Networks), and anything else one can think of like Nat Geo WILD HD and TV Land HD.


    Now that we are in August, and there are five remaining full months (including this one) for 2013, I'm not feeling optimistic that DirecTV will bring in the basic-cable programming more sought-after—which should have been delivered some time ago. It's been a month since QVC HD, Galavision HD, and Playboy TV HD were in test mode. (I know what was recently mentioned by Sixto.) And now we have beIN Sport Espanol HD and ESPN Deportes HD in test mode. But what else is DirecTV going to deliver before the launch of D14 in 2014? That's what I want to know. The five mentioned in this paragraph—compared with accounting for the rest of the list of basic-cable programmers' "Missing HD" (like from AMC Networks)—is very wanting.

  6. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    I have Fuse on fios. I remember a while back, it was a mess. Seems fine now. Not perfect HD but pretty good. Doesn't mean everything is perfect, but it is not unconverted SD. The SD, even on fios is not good.
  7. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Many HD channels started with little or no HD and worked their way up. It is easy to get an early report of "it is all upconvert" stuck in your mind for years after the channel has improved.
  8. Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    FUSE is stretched on DISH also.
  9. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    No, it is not. Read above Paul.
  10. cypherx

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    I'm staying over this weekend at a place that has TWC in NY. Fuse HD looks great, as does We. CSPAN1, 2, and 3 HD are 4:3 crystal clear but c-span branded pillarbars at the sides. EWTN HD looked stretched. Not sure what else you'd want me to check but they have pretty much every HD except for all the Showtimes thanks to the CBS dispute. They even have BBC World news HD and NDK or N something Japan HD.

    They have an Auto HD feature but it doesn't work on many channels. Works on most of the OTA networks, but for the most part it's very sporadic. So finding the HD channels is weird... seems to start at 651 and go up. But then there's some HD sports in the 400's area and I think I saw an HD or two in the 200's. The channel lineup is a complete disorganized mess. You have things like ESPN2 coming BEFORE EPSN1. How is that for backwards. Then things like ESPN News, ESPNU and others not near each other. And H2 is nowhere close to History. DIY is a longshot from HGTV, as is Food and Cooking spread way apart.

    Despite there being more HD than Directv, DirecTV's channel lineup (and 100% working "auto hd" i'll call it).... I'd still take DirecTV over TWC in a heartbeat. Oh and the DVR (SA 8300HDC) and their really crummy "Navigator" software is so atrocious. So I'd rather have an easy to use smooth DirecTV system and continue to anticipate some of the oddballs than a disorganized hard to use mess just to get Reelz, GSN, Fuse, We, etc...
  11. KyL416

    KyL416 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 10, 2005
    Tobyhanna, PA
    It's very rare on cable to have original analog channels like History, A&E, HGTV and Food near their newer digital counterparts like H2, Bio, DIY and Cooking unless they went all out like RCN after they went all digital and made everything below 100 locals, subchannels, public access, etc and the actual entertainment channels start in the 100s.

    TWC in NYC also has a lot of remaps because of how they market their different packages, English channels that are also available in the Spanish packages appear higher up in the lineup, along with another range of remaps for the family package, and a few remaps for sports packages. A lot of the mess is also how Time Warner NYC rapidly expanded their analog lineup in the 90s and just stuck channels wherever they can fit them as they were added. (At one point WAM was surrounded by a bunch of ethnic channels)

    At least it isn't as bad as Optimum, they did auto HD, but they also still have the HD channels in the original 700s and 800s range, which no one goes near anymore since they can just turn to the more familiar numbers and get HD. However, HD only channels like Velocity and Palladia are still only available in the 700s range, impossible to find since they're burried between all the other channels that can be found lower down in the lineup. There's also no way to turn it off to see or record the SD counterparts (i.e. you rather see Fresh Prince and Married with Children reruns in 4:3 instead of Turnervision on TBS, or are low on drive space so you don't care about getting a show in HD) It also backfired during Hurricane Sandy, the ABC O&O's have Live Well HD on .2 and Live Well SD on .3, since the cable providers refused to downconvert it for SD only customers. With the auto HD remap Live Well HD and SD are now on the same channel, which works most of the time, however during Sandy .3 became a live radar with NOAA radio while .2 aired all the pre-empted ABC and syndicated programming, SD customers couldn't get ABC while HD customers couldn't get the radar.
  12. cypherx

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    KyL416, I understand because of existing analog lineups, the additional channels like MTV2, H2, ESPN2 / ESPNU, DIY, etc... are not going to be next to their sister channels. However in the remap, they have things like H2 HD, DIY HD, in the 600's, then in the 700's they have History HD, Food HD is in the lower 700's, cooking HD is in the upper 700's.

    They have auto HD which can be turned on or off. It's set to on but it only works on a handful of channels, so it's not really useful. The problem is where I am staying since for most normal networks like Spice, A&E, HGTV, TNT, NFL Network, etc... its not auto mapping to HD... so they are watching it in SD. From the horrible 4:3 guide that is pretty slow, and channel changing times that are pretty much identical to DirecTV... despite having all the HD I think DirecTV is far superior for the overall all around package. From Pandora and YouTube on the HR's, to Multi Room, to a better guide, ability to hide SD duplicates, cover art, beautifully detailed on demand screens, Genie, Genie Go, IPad app, etc.... DirecTV wins hands down.

    I guess my point is, so what if GSN isn't in HD. It doesn't make the overall package. Do I want it in HD? YOU BET! I also think when D14 arrives it (and many others) will be converted to HD. Till then I will be thankful for DirecTV for the overall polished experience from end to end.
  13. tonyd79

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    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    No, it is not. Read above Paul.

    It appears at times it might be. All day when I checked, it was not. HD normal sized and about the same PQ as AMC or better. This evening, behold a stretched movie.
  14. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    Blame ABC for that odd setup of having OTA with dual SD / HD feeds that next to no other OTA channels do.
  15. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    That's interesting. So they're doing a 4:3 "safe" thing to avoid the cost of producing two feeds and letting hardware take care of it on the backend as to who gets what?

    Obviously giving up some serious screen real estate there, but it would save them some expense and staffing (they are likely all about that), and the 4:3 area would still be HD quality.
  16. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    and yet FOX and ESPN have 16:9 SD / have it down res at the headend
  17. fleckrj

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    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    This is CSPAN you are talking about. There is not enough visual information to fill the screen real estate in the first place. These channels only need good audio. There is nothing worth seeing as long as you can hear.
  18. trainman

    trainman Hall Of Fame

    Jan 9, 2008
    I've definitely seen C-SPAN HD content that was 16:9 (on "The Daily Show," when they've used recent C-SPAN footage). Perhaps that's only for live House/Senate coverage.
  19. Robin112

    Robin112 New Member

    Nov 10, 2012
    Are the new hd channels goin live thursday the 15 and are they gonna add all 5 channels or just the first 3 which was galavision, playboy, qvc
  20. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Good chance.
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