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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. Aug 5, 2010 #2101 of 4782
    Hoosier205

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    ...what? That has nothing at all to do with AMC HD coming to DirecTV.
     
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    TheRatPatrol

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    Maybe D* wants to wait until then to add it. ;)
     
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    That would be the fallacy of the argument right there, but I grant you a lot of people seem to have that attitude. There is absolutely no reason to believe that a couple of D* programmers were getting hammered one night and flipped a coin for the next Festivus --"Heads it's soccer; tails it's AMCHD". No reason at all.

    It seems a natural train of thought to think in either/or terms, but I don't see any reason to think its justified right now with D*s adding new HD channels.
     
  4. Aug 5, 2010 #2104 of 4782
    sigma1914

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    :rolleyes: For the love of HD Gods, are you serious? :rolleyes: Good job...You completely mislabeled the link. This has zero to do with AMCHD being added. The article is about Breaking Bad not returning till 2011. Not, "No AMCHD until 2011." :rolleyes:
     
  5. Aug 5, 2010 #2105 of 4782
    TheRatPatrol

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    It was a joke. :p
     
  6. Aug 5, 2010 #2106 of 4782
    sigma1914

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    A bad one. :lol: Use smileys.
     
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    I am not bashing soccer, but ESPN also carried mud racing and rodeos. It's not like it's a seal of quality. Fox did that because they felt it would be good in that timeslot. And what interest doesn't have 3 channels in the US?

    You can't say that being on a broadcast network makes anything worthy. The CW went years without anything worthwhile on their network. I won't even go there with UPN or the early days of Fox itself.
     
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    Soccer channels are here. Get over it and move on. DIRECTV added soccer channels because they negotiated a price where they felt they could make money. This is the only valid reason to add any channel. If DIRECTV had a chance to get AMC or TCM in HD for what they considered a profitable price, we would have them too.

    I don't watch soccer on TV. I don't watch baseball on TV or the NBA. I do enjoy college football and the occasional NFL game, but I am embarrassed by the attitude here. Soccer is not popular (relatively) in the US, but is apparently popular enough for DIRECTV to make some money selling it. If you feel that soccer channels kept your beloved AMC or TCM or BBCA from getting HD carriage, I feel you are confused or purposely ignoring the facts.

    This is not the situation of a few years ago where slots were very limited and getting one channel meant not getting another. Getting a channel someone else wants does not diminish your chances of getting your favorite unless you are silly enough to believe that we will have all HD channels at some point. Keep in mind that there are SD channels not available on DIRECTV and DISH even now.
     
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    Fact are facts, see D* latest fin. report and sub numbers.
     
  10. Aug 5, 2010 #2110 of 4782
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    Really, so riddle me this, why is it that NBC continues to nationally broadcast football games of a 2nd rate team? Has nothing to do with whats good for business or ratings, just their perspective that everybody loves Norte Dame football.
     
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    Hoosier205

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    ...what? Regardless of whether or not that team has been successful lately, they are still very popular. NBC has a contract with that university. It's not as if they just choose weekend by weekend which game they want to broadcast. They are an independent team and don't benefit from TV contracts established by various conferences.
     
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    I have no idea what CW is. Simply saying that if there wasn't a market, there wouldn't be rights being bought, channels being created. ESPN must have gotten decent ratings from the EPL matches last year because they are trying to buy more of them from FOX who owns the US broadcast rights.
     
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    It is because Notre Dame has a nationwide following with many of those in the affluent category which advertisers love. Ever been to South Bend on gameday? I went once and was amazed by the number of private planes flying in on gameday. While the team is not as good as it used to be, you should still try to get up there. Great place.
     
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    Because they are contractually obligated to do so thru 2015. Which they are probably starting to regret at least a little bit.
     
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    It's about money & how ND is trying to get as much as other less successful schools while remaining in the national eye. Notre Dame's television and shared Big East conference revenue in 2009 was around $11 million. They still get less than the bottom feeders of the Big 10 & SEC. Since 2008, every Big Ten school has cleared at least $15 million. Every SEC team has banked $17 million, with the amount increasing, yearly. The NBC was great until recent years, now, ND gets chump change.
     
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    And why does CBS have a full contract with the SEC? I thought they were only regional in your stilted view of sports.

    And, gee. You submarine your own argument. You claim that directv has soccer because it is a regional view then use an example that money and ratings win the day. Guess that would be why directv has soccer, huh?

    You win the argue against yourself circle of logic award.
     
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    I just noticed that directvs nasdaq stock symbol is DTV.

    So when someone posts DTV instead of D*, just say its the stock symbol. :D


    Wanted to see what the stock was doing off the earnings report.

    At 1:00 the stock was up 2.3% even with the market being down.

    Cool.
     
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    ND has that contract because, at the time it was signed, they had a very active and relatively affluent alumni/fan base. It has nothing to do with the success of the team but is tied directly to the willingness of advertisers to accept that package as demographically attractive.

    Michigan and North Carolina are leaders in completely different area: licensing. They were (and maybe still are) the top two schools for profits from licensed merchandise in the NCAA. Items with those two logos sell (no matter how much I loathe one of them), so stores stock those items.

    Business decisions in successful companies are most often made because of rational profit motive and seldom due to zealous fervor or blind allegiance.
     
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    gregjones

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    Yep. But it's so fun to see seasoned veterans of the forum completely dissuade a new user because they used something logical instead of an inane, but preferred abbreviation...
     
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    Let stick to ratings and avoid the "mine is bigger than yours" arguments, if possible. Football ratings are spread out over local broadcast, regional sports, national broadcast and national sports channels. Soccer is somewhat more concentrated in its coverage. Any one soccer match might have much higher ratings than a low-rated football game because it might be the only soccer match on a basic cable channel at any one time.

    Soccer, SEC Football, NFL -- it doesn't matter the sport. People want to see *their* team on TV when they play. Some teams and sports are more popular. If someone wasn't making money on them being on TV, you wouldn't see them. Whining and griping won't improve soccer ratings or SEC coverage in some parts of the country. Let's move on and discuss channels we do not have.
     
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