What say we now? That you're overreacting and exaggerating. More HD is yet to come. Plenty of capacity is still available. Patience. The rest of the year will likely be very good for us via DirecTV. All this pi$$ing and moaning over a handful of channels. Nothing is ever good enough, that much is certain. They could offer every HD channel available and some folks would make up imaginary ones to complaint about. There is no need to feel bad for Satelliteracer because there is no evidence to support your assumptions that he is being given "the run-around." The factors in the Tango vary from one provider to another. Each negotiation is unique. Dish still hasn't bothered to add some channels as well. They even have a hard time keeping the ones they have. What they do offer is mucked up. Once again, there is no evidence to substantiate your claims. You simply don't understand the process or appreciate the difficulties involved. VOOM? Old channels provided through a now nonexistent service are not at all likely to be an issue for Dish when negotiating carriage of a channel currently available. Here is a simple and plausible excuse for DirecTV: Rainbow may be asking for more than DirecTV believes it should be paying for AMC HD alone or maybe the negotiations include more than one Rainbow owned network and again the asking price may be too high for DirecTV's liking. News Flash: DirecTV is a business and they make business decisions. They will add channels requested by customers if and when the terms are acceptable. They aren't going to throw wise business practices out the window simply to bring you a single channel when you demand it. You get what you get when they are ready to give it to you. You have only one option...choose a different provider if you are so unhappy. That is the only trick up your sleeve. You can make all the demands you want, but you may as well be talking to yourself. It should not be a surprise to anyone here that DirecTV is being methodical about this process. They always have been. I would rather them do that. I would rather them do it the right way. As opposed to Dish Network, where you have to deal with constant carriage disputes and a reduction in picture quality. If you want to support the legal careers of half the attorneys in this country...be my guest. Pay your ETF and enjoy.