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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    When it comes to adding new HD channels....

    ...one person's critical urgent "need to have" new HD addition....

    ...is another person's "no big deal". :D

    The best example is all the negativity in posts on the other side of the house around today's addition of AMC HD on Dish....plenty of complaints of too many commercials, not enough HD content 24 hours, wanted something else instead, etc.

    I'd love a couple specific new HD national channels...but I have plenty to watch until they show up.

    Can't make everyone happy every time.
     
  2. dcowboy7

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    We know you cant make everyone happy but adding only 15 of the top 50 from sixtos list so far is....
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

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    ...just fine for most...

    Here's what new channels inevitably bring with them...

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=2563361&postcount=36

    Like I said.....ups and downs...
     
  4. Alan Gordon

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    I wish I knew where everyone was getting this information from... :confused:

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  5. dcowboy7

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    Dude....sixtos list....hello:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172832
     
  6. Jason Whiddon

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    Theyve not done a very good job with our voted list, so no one here should expect the members to be happy. That list sums it up, what most of us want.
     
  7. Jason Whiddon

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    Yeah, for some reason they are missing 2. You can still record 4 on AMC.
     
  8. Alan Gordon

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    I see no information on that link that DirecTV polled their HD customers and found that the majority of their customers are happy with their HD channel lineup? If it's there, please point me in it's direction... ;)

    ~Alan
     
  9. georule

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    Except when you quoted it, the quote said "sixtos list", so that's on you if you try to make it more than that --the quotee did not say it was more than that.

    I haven't seen evidence that D* is polling their HD customers at all on the subject. Somebody can say "well, they must be", but I see no reason they must at all, and no evidence they actually have in any relevant timeframe to our discussions here. There's certainly a reasonably good chance it would have leaked into public if they were. It only takes one guy somewhere who participated to out it.

    As to the demographics of DBS vs general D* HD subscribers, I see no reason to think they're wildly different absent actual facts to back that up. Got any of those in your pocket?
     
  10. Alan Gordon

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    I knew why dcowboy7 replied the way he did. My statement regarding not seeing it anywhere on Sixto's list was in jest... hence the "wink" emoticon at the end of my comment. ;)

    Hence my point! ;)

    Nope... I don't have any facts one way or the other. That was kind of my point.

    It's at least the second time this month that somebody has stated that the majority of HD subscribers are happy with the lineup. I think it's safe to assume that the majority of the HD subscribers are MOSTLY happy with the channel lineup, but I find it hard to believe that the majority of the HD subscribers are "fine" with the lineup. I'm open to the possibility, but until I know what is the logic behind this conclusion, I'm confused every time somebody says it.

    ~Alan
     
  11. ffemtreed

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    DTV should send out a survey that has two lists on it with no name on the top. One would be dish networks HD channel line up and one being DTV's lineup. See how many people would pick DTV over DISH. Sounds like a good independent study!
     
  12. sigma1914

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    Ummm, not quite an independent study.
     
  13. cebbigh

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    If you go through retention and say cancel sports pack they might give you the $10 6 month discount.

    I called with the intent of canceling after already having cut way back and they started making me offers to stay. I now have about $35 monthly in discounts and that is making it difficult to leave. The only reason I am still hanging around is sports. Aside from that, I find myself watching more off the Roku than directv.
     
  14. James Long

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    Sounds like the Pepsi Challenge ... although a blind list test would have obvious enough differences that most should be able to pick out the provider they are familiar with (26 part time RSNs vs 29 full time and 35? part time RSNs; 21 PPV channels vs 37 PPV channels; key channels such as the ABC/Disney channels pulled from DISH vs the basic cable channels DirecTV has not added; the nine additional HD only channels on DISH).

    Many regular customers (we're not regular) might not notice the ABC/Disney channels missing from a long list. They might not notice whether or not the basic cable channels DirecTV has not added are on the list. We would know to look for them. The "contest" would become "which lineup is yours" much like the Pepsi Challenge was "which sample is your regular drink".

    If they could overcome the "find my list" challenge, I expect most people would scan down the lists for their favorite networks and pick the one with the most of their favorite channels (hence the DirecTV advertising of "more of the channels you watch" - which seems to have faded off of their website). And if the channels they were looking for were on both lists or equally missing they might fall back to the longer list (hence the current DirecTV advertising of "most full-time HD channels")

    A blind list test would fail on the customers who could recognize their own service and require too much thought from people who don't (I'd want to cross off all duplicates to get shorter lists to compare). I don't see it being a conclusive test.

    If you said "would you give up ABC/Disney and regional sports channels for AMC/BBC/TCM and a dozen other basic cable channels" you might get a different response. Perhaps that is what you were suggesting?
     
  15. harsh

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    Recognize two things:

    1. AMC fans know how many commercials there are. There aren't any more on the HD channel than there are on the SD channel.

    2. Trying to convince the fans that they aren't going to like the channel in HD doesn't have a particularly high probability of acceptance.
     
  16. hdtvfan0001

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    Plenty of folks there are saying the same "not happy" things. I could care less what Dish offers - I don't use them nor would I do so. That wasn't the point in the first place. I would not expect posts like that to influence me or anyone else, as those are judgments left alone for each of us.

    Yet those posts still underscore the same phenomenon that happens every time a new HD channel is launched anywhere...some folks will post how they:

    1) Will never watch it
    2) Don't like how the channel is presented (OAR, etc)
    3) Dislike something about the broadcasts (commercials, programming, etc.)

    Happens virtually every time. Not only for DirecTV, but Dish too. AMC HD is just the latest.

    So just bring on more...and perhaps in numbers the chatter will be reduced.
     
  17. DaveC27

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    It should be remembered that we are a tiny minority of Dish Subscribers and in no way do our views necessarily reflect the majority
     
  18. DaveC27

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    I guess there's no way to quantify it without knowing how many Direct subscribers just subscribe to the basic package, don't bother with taking out the HDTV options.

    I thought that the majority of US households just stuck with the c ore 5 channels but later research showed that to be wong :( and after all there's no indication of how many of those who watch just the 5 have only those ones to watch

    I guess there is no publicly available research on how many subscribers are happy with their current offering. However it's safe to say that the views on this thread are not representative of the core of DTV's subscriber base
     
  19. James Long

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    So what was your point in bringing DISH customers complaints into this thread?

    It appears that you were trying to counter the arguments of those who want AMC-HD on DirecTV by pointing out that a few DISH customers think it is no big deal.

    People who actually watch movies and other programming on AMC know the commercial load and accept it - many using their DVRs to work around the issue. When DirecTV gets the HD version you too can enjoy more pixels of picture including OAR movies on the HD channel. Higher resolution makes this particular channel better. And those with DVRs can still work around the other problems with the channel.

    I wonder how many of the "complainers" ever watched the channel and how many just tuned in to see what it was when it went HD. For them it is a new channel, not a favorite, and competes with their desire to see other channels upgraded first. Just like any non-favorite channel added to DirecTV.

    Our opinions are not that far apart.
     
  20. Hutchinshouse

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    Your 3 points are valid. The issue is we cannot use one of those excuses until we get new HD. ;):lol:

    PPVHD, $12.99 and $14.99 channels don’t count. :nono:

    We want good old fashion HD without additional costs. Yes, we got a few already. Most importantly we got TRAVHD :D. However, as far as “good old fashion HD”, the D12 numbers are anemic. No way to sugarcoat this fact.


    Happy Friday! :grin:
     
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