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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 24, 2010.

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  1. hdtvfan0001

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    Seems we're sorta kinda on the same page.

    I suspect there are perhaps roughly 2 dozen more national HD channels that may have a financial-based justification to include/add.

    Please note these are NOT personal preferences in any way.

    As you requested...here is my guestimate of the ones that seem to have the best chance of seeing the light of day proor to a D14 launch:

    NON PREMIUM CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD
    1. AMC
    2. BBC America
    3. C-SPAN
    4. Cooking Channel
    5. Discovery Kids
    6. DIY
    7. E!
    8. EWTN
    9. Fox Soccer Channel
    10. Fuse
    11. G4
    12. Galavision
    13. GoL
    14. History International
    15. Headline News
    16. Home Shopping Network
    17. IFC
    18. Lifetime Movie Network
    19. Logo
    20. NASA TV
    21. National Geographic Wild
    22. Outdoor Channel
    23. Sundance Channel
    24. TBN
    25. Turner Classic Movies
    PREMIUM CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD
    1. MoreMax
    2. HBO Latino
    3. HBO Signature
    4. HBO Family
    5. Encore Action
    6. Encore Drama
    7. Encore Love
    8. Encore Mystery
    9. Encore WAM
    10. Encore Western
     
  2. slimoli

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    :rolleyes:Just watched the sneak preview of Rubicon on AMC. Looks very promising. August 1 is the premiere.
     
  3. Alan Gordon

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    The addition of AMC will probably have Rainbow trying to force not only IFC and Sundance, but WeTV as well...

    CSPAN2 was already previously advertised (I forgot that until last night)...who knows about the chances for CSPAN3...

    Discovery Kids may result in a carriage agreement for Investigation Discovery...

    The addition of E! might result in a carriage agreement for Style Network as well as just G4...

    Fox Soccer Channel would probably be lonely without Fox Soccer Plus...

    GMC already has an agreement that is not listed...

    The agreement for Headline News and Turner Classic Movie might result in carriage of TruTV...

    That's not counting a few of the channls coming later this year (the Fox ones should have a decent shot of making it), a couple of HD Extra channels, and a few premiums that I expect beyond what you do...

    Galavision and Fox Sports en Español COULD go on 110 or 119 as though...

    ~Alan
     
  4. mrtanner69

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    I would be surprised if Fox Soccer and Fox Soccer plus did not launch by the start of the English premier season although its starting to be tight so perhaps surprise will be in order. They pretty much have to have them on the commercial side or a lot of bars/restaurants would need to get Dish (especially assuming Dish adds Soccer Plus).

    As far as all the other channels are concerned, especially the bigger ones (AMC, BBC etc), with D's enhanced capacity the economics really suggest its just a matter of when. It's typically in both parties interests to expand the ad reach of a given channel with the only question being who gets what.

    If ppv did not exist it would absolutely be a matter of when, but not knowing D's beliefs about the relative marginal return to bandwidth of incremental ppv vs. incremental HD channels it's hard to know for sure.
     
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    I've noticed that you've mentioned an agreement several times. Where did you hear about this?
     
  6. Alan Gordon

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    A combination of places...

    Unfortunately, I can't find ANYWHERE "official" anymore...

    You posted a link to a website... whose lack of familiarity is not the BEST source, but it's the best I can find anymore...

    For a while, AVSForum listed it as coming to DirecTV... but they appear to have gotten it from the same site you did.

    Ironically, a similar thing happened with Hallmark Movie Channel. I had read a press release two or three years ago stating that DirecTV had reached an agreement to carry Hallmark Movie Channel. Sometime later, I went to find it and I couldn't find it anyway...

    It could be a mistake, but given my experiences with Hallmark Movie Channel, I'm going to believe it until proven otherwise...

    ~Alan
     
  7. gregjones

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    You obviously missed the point of the post. Having high ratings and advertiser interest once every four years doesn't create everyday demand. I have no problem with sports programming. The point is that most sports viewers (a very desired advertiser demographic) do not choose to watch soccer on a regular basis. This ad money ends up in college and pro football and basketball, by and large.

    There's nothing wrong with enjoying a sport that is not commercially popular year after year, but it is not reasonable to expect DIRECTV to bend over backwards to make products based on it.

    The Olympics are a great example. NBC went out of its way to force MSNBC HD on people by holding some Olympics coverage on it. MSNBC has abysmal ratings week after week, and DIRECTV did not press to have MSNBC HD carried in time for the Olympics.


    In short, the World Cup has good ratings and is commercially viable as an event. Soccer outside of the World Cup events is considerably less popular with viewers and therefore, advertisers.
     
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    Unfortunately it looks like you are right. All providers carrying AMC-HD also carry WETV. Wasting bandwidth for a "Wedding Channel" is not something I would like to see. IFC and Sundance are very welcome, though. :(
     
  9. Alan Gordon

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    Nope! However, part of being a good multichannel provider is providing a decent amount of "niche" programming... and with DirecTV putting a lot of emphasis on being the "sports leader", "niche" sport programming stands an even better chance.

    As for your msnbc comments, I believe had the bandwidth been available, it would have been there prior to it's eventual addition. Most likely DirecTV felt that taking down a PPV channel would have cost them more than the lack of msnbc...

    ~Alan
     
  10. hdtvfan0001

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    Note: Some carriage agreements contain "right to broadcast" language, along with pricing. It doesn't require the channel to be broadcast, nor guarantee it. That is still at the option of the provider.
     
  11. slimoli

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    That's good news.
     
  12. Alan Gordon

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    It's very likely that's the case...

    ~Alan
     
  13. JimAtTheRez

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    Just looking at this list, the ones I would really like are AMC, TCM, and the Encore channels. As an aside, and I'm sure this has been asked somewhere on here before, does ESPN plan to go HD with Classic anytime soon? Some of the SEC football games get relegated to ESPN Classic occasionally. There aren't that many Saturdays that I am not in the stadium, but all of us have to work every once in a while! Football, even more so than regular programming, looks awful in SD.
     
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    Except DirecTV has already bent over backwards with the addition of the Champions League, Europa League and La Liga games that they show in HD on channels 456-459 and 480-489.
     
  15. JoeTheDragon

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    maybe they can the over flow games on 210-1 this year.
     
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    When we get these channels I will be very happy. Just wonder how long it's going to take to get them all. 1 year? 2 years? In the meantime though, I find myself spending more time watching my Roku box than DIRECTV. For 10 bucks a month Netflix streaming is one heck of a deal. If Roku adds Hulu I might just find myself wondering why I should keep DIRECTV. PPV and 3D certainly aren't going to enter into it.

    TCM
    AMC
    BBC
    FMC
    HISTORY INTERNATIOAL
    NAT GEO WILD
    Indieplex, Movieplex, and Retroplex
    MILITARY CHANNEL - whenever it goes HD
     
  17. paulman182

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    The Encore niche channels aren't available in HD yet, are they?

    What's the chance DirecTV is saving space for them when they launch?
     
  18. ARKDTVfan

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    I'd say pretty good
    and I'd love for all those to be in HD
     
  19. gregjones

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    ...for a separate charge

    and which satellite are those on?
     
  20. mrtanner69

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    Yeah right. You have very little idea what you are talking about.


    http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/...s-League-final-could-break-TV-ratings-records

    Non world cup soccer is actually very important. Europeans, Hispanics (a huge, growing and desirable demographic) and S.Americans live and breath soccer. As such soccer is a critical hook to get these groups to subscribe to tv services generally. Furthermore, since the most watched soccer is live at relatively fallow times for the networks (Sat am for PL, Wed afternoon for CL) it tends to be all upside with little opportunity cost. Optimizing the long tail is where most of the upside profits are in TV at this point.
     
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