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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 26, 2011.

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  1. tuckerdog

    tuckerdog Legend

    Sep 22, 2007
    The reality is that 4th quarter reports and other financials have a big impact on the potential addition of new channels as well as other aspects of DTV's future plans.
    As long as the current business model is working and there is no indication of negative trends there is little rationale for DTV to change its plans. Currently those plans seem to include little emphasis on the addition of HD channels to the basic package
    As strongly as many on this board want to see AMC, BBCA, TCM etc added, myself included, there does not seem to be a strong business rationale for D* to change its plans
    Can't blame them from a strictly business perspective.
  2. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    tuckerdog, I think that's a fair assessment. But keep in mind, that while D* did gain net subscribers, it really was a low number. As the economy goes, so will the spending on discretionary items.

    Neither of which makes D* have to add basic HD because even though they didn't do as well in net adds as they have been doing, they are still adding and being profitable, and doing better than the competition.
  3. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    It wasn't but 49 minutes ago that you were anticipating that you would.

    Which is it (or does "anticipation" necessarily mean some time down the road now)?
  4. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Well, you can anticipate and still know that it is probably just an exercise in futility, or you can anticipate that you'll still be anticipating next quarter too, or maybe even further... :)

    It's all in the definition of the moment, and since I'm older, I can't remember what I said most of the time! :lol::confused:
  5. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    There are both positive trends and negative trends now. Churn is trending negative as is net adds. Profit isn't as high as it has been.

    ARPU is trending towards astronomical which will likely put some additional push behind the churn and net adds trending.

    At some point, the subscriber base as a whole is going to want something to show for all that ARPU increase.
  6. zeus

    zeus Legend

    May 18, 2011
    The problem is you can't gauge current churn as an indication of what has happened in the last year - nor is it predictive of the future.

    With the launch of D12, people flocked to D* in expectation of them becoming the HD leader (a title which they oddly still claim.) Thus, you have millions of subscribers under contract that went into their 24 month cycle expecting D* to rapidly add new HD on par with rivals (i.e. adding all the missing basics that Dish now has in their portfolio.)

    I have a feeling that when those two year contracts start coming to an end next spring into summer a lot of people are going to rethink their options. D* at that time will either have a competitive product (by adding basic HD) or maybe they will stick with the "high end market/sports market" and let those who place a premium on channels like AMC, BBCA etc go.

    With long term contracts, when D* posts its financials you are seeing the fruits of their labor over the entire two years and not what has happened or not happened in the last 6-12 months. With low subscriber gains barely outpacing churn, I think the long term viability of their current model might be tested.

    And with that...I'm still anticipating AMCHD and BBCAHD in 2011 (I also am anxiously anticipating winning the lottery and moving to Tahiti - which I am currently giving slightly better odds of occurring...)
  7. APB101

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    Sep 1, 2010


    DirecTV’s new satellite will enable more HD channels

    By Jeff Chabot
    hd-report.com | 01.10.2010

  8. mluntz

    mluntz Icon

    Jul 13, 2006
    I saw one at WalMart the other day for $180.
  9. Hutchinshouse

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006
    Have a link? :D
  10. Coca Cola Kid

    Coca Cola Kid Hall Of Fame

    Jul 19, 2009
    Mt. Morris, MI
    FUD from a E* subscriber
  11. mluntz

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    Jul 13, 2006
    No, it was sitting up on the top shelf. Looked like it had been there for awhile!
  12. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    Are you sure it was SD? Just being 4:3 wouldn't prove the point. They started making those with ATSC tuners during the transition period.
  13. dcowboy7

    dcowboy7 Hall Of Fame

    May 22, 2008
    Pequannock, NJ
    Its was supposed to be completely rolled out Q4 2010 but due to problems (what a shock) its on hold again for the 24th time.
  14. QuickDrop

    QuickDrop Hall Of Fame

    Jul 20, 2007
    When the excuse for lack of HD was "it takes two to tango," it obviously was important to point out that most other companies were able to tango because it suggested that DirecTV themselves were the unwilling partner.

    At this point, it seems most people "accept" that adding basic HD channels hasn't been the at the top of DirecTV's must do list. Your own recent posts seem very happy to point out that companies which have successfully "tangoed" to carry basic HD channels are losing customers. Now, that you are proudly revealing the farce of the "tango" excuse, I agree that it is less necessary to compare DirecTV's lack of deals for certain channels to everyone else's deals for those same channels. Thanks partially to your recent posts, that DirecTV has put basic HD additions on the back burner for the past four years is self evident.

    DirecTV, Fios, AT&T have been the only "winners" so far in the quarterly reports. What do they have in common? None are traditional cable companies. Exactly what I said the first time.

    Being paid by DirecTV, attacking DishNetwork must be a knee jerk response but it doesn't change what I wrote.
  15. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Save the Clock Tower!!

    Aug 21, 2006
    Fresno, CA
    In a year, when the Pac-12 Network launches, I hope it will be available on DIRECTV.

    There is a good chance that it will be, too. Will AMC-HD be on DIRECTV by then? Hard to say, depends on how the "tango" goes. I hope it is, but AMC will likely still be showing only 13 or 26 hours of programming per year that I actually watch.

    The Pac-12 Network? Certainly more demand for it. More viewers want it. More HD (presumably) is scheduled. Then there is the fact that it's sports.

    But some of these basic HD channels that DIRECTV is missing remind me of the smallest DMAs. The effect is so very small, compared to the rest.

    DIRECTV will continue to add more HD channels as they see fit. Their growth continues, where other companies have lost subscribers. Hard to argue with the numbers, but some try anyway.
  16. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Guys, let's not question each other's integrity.
  17. Bradman

    Bradman Mentor

    Aug 8, 2011
    Count me as one who is more interested in HD Premiums and Sports than HD Basics. I'd much rather watch the AMC stuff on Blu-Ray,I only watch Top Gear on BBC,and TCM in HD is a joke,since most of its' programming isn't.
  18. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
  19. TravelFan1

    TravelFan1 Legend

    Apr 1, 2009
  20. mystic7

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    Dec 9, 2007
    Elitist! *sniff!*
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