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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 26, 2011.

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  1. Satelliteracer

    Satelliteracer Hall Of Fame

    Dec 6, 2006
    Guys....again back to the numbers. Tom's laid out a pretty good sense of it. There are more SD customers than HD customers in the USA.

    The cost of swapping out all those SD receivers, plus rolling trucks (labor), plus switching out the dish would rival only the stimulus package the gov't put through. :) Way more than a new satellite (or many satellites for that matter). Honestly, it's not even close.

    There are plenty of very smart people that are working on this very thing and a number of procedures, policies, etc have already been put into place for the eventual reality that HD becomes the norm. This is why you see some new customers getting HD only, as part of that process. Some of those policies will "hurry" that reality quicker, but to just swap everyone out to gain some capacity that can't be used for any fruitful purpose today, would not be a smart use of resources, would cost more than many nations annual GDP's (I'm not joking), and the benefits not realized for years down the road to make it a non-starter no matter what lens you put it through.
  2. Satelliteracer

    Satelliteracer Hall Of Fame

    Dec 6, 2006
    And you would be absolutely 100% correct.
  3. APB101

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    Sep 1, 2010
    I'd have to concur with zeus.

    I posted this already, but will post it again.…


    DirecTV’s new satellite will enable more HD channels

    By Jeff Chabot
    hdreport.com | Jan. 3, 2010

    In December 2009, DirecTV could have struck a deal with Rainbow Media (now AMC Networks) to get the HD feed at least with AMC. (Instead, DirecTV did just the SDs.) By then, AMC had the back-to-back best-drama Emmys, for as many eligible seasons, for Mad Men (also the 2008 and 2009 winner in drama writing), as well as the back-to-back Emmys for lead actor in a drama series for Breaking Bad's Bryan Cranston. All would go on, in 2010, to threepeat. And Cranston's costar, Aaron Paul, would waltz off with a supporting-actor trophy. Here in 2011, and with Breaking Bad not having aired eligible 2010-11 episodes, The Killing steps in and has directing and writing nods along with bids for lead actress Mireille Enos and supporting actress Michelle Forbes. There's obviously been incredible growth with original series programming with AMC. And every other provider seems not to have a problem carrying AMC HD.

    It no longer matters whether DirecTV has pursued getting the HD feed of AMC. What matters is DirecTV's failure to carry AMC HD.
  4. GiantsFan383

    GiantsFan383 Legend

    Jul 28, 2011
    I would like to see vh1 soul and mtv hits please.
  5. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    I don't entirely disagree with this, as I do think that would have been the natural time to have it out over terms and conditions.

    D12 was in the air (by two days) --or, more accurately, out of the air. Season 3 of Mad Men had just ended.

    Otoh, Mike White had been hired, but *hadn't started yet* (he started Jan 1, 2010). Some reluctance to pick a fight with a major provider during a CEO transition? --that's a natural consideration. TV Everywhere was certainly on the drawing board, but a lot of companies were still struggling to see how their competitors would handle it --the precedents were still thin on the ground.

    NBA and NHL season was ongoing, and that would have caused disruption for those customers if D* had insisted the grand deal had to be made right then as well.

    Versus was off D* air for how long? Many months. And very painful to some of us (hockey fans). It's not the easiest decision in the world to decide you're willing to lose all those other channels for weeks or months, and annoy a lot of customers, to fight it out until you get the whole enchilada.
  6. Sea bass

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    Jun 9, 2005
    Not so long ago I watched AMC (the C standing for commercials) quite regularily. But since I went HD, I just can't do the SD anymore. This same story repeats for sooo many SD channels.

    What are the $ impacts to D*, networks, & advertisers? (if any) Do they ever track this stuff? Would advertisers be interested to know that a lot of HD viewers are not watching a network series because it's not in HD on a certain national provider? Maybe the HD numbers are too low to make a significant impact. However, if I were a company buying add space on AMC for a show like Breaking Bad, and found a lot of people would rather wait for an HD on-line version vs. an SD version with my add space, I may want to pay a lot less for that add space. I'm sure AMC would not like this, and I know D* just loves netfix...and the net in general. Thoughts?
  7. mdavej

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    So because a human being sees a picture with his or her eyes, it's impossible to make an objective evaluation of the quality that picture? That makes no sense. We evaluate PQ all the time with media players, displays, source material, etc. DirecTV knows exactly how much compression they use and can quantify the damage it does to the PQ. Just because some people can't see the damage doesn't mean it doesn't exist. DirecTV SD stinks. That's undeniable. It's measurable. I can compare pixel by pixel. Those that are different from the original material can be easily quantified. Nothing subjective about that. I think even Hoosier can agree if you were to compare Dish and DirecTV HD that PQ isn't subjective. It either accurately represents the source material or it doesn't.
  8. cfkane

    cfkane AllStar

    Mar 14, 2010
    Maybe what SR is trying to say is that if 5000 people have a problem with pq, and 2 million do not, it isn't worth the time, effort and $ for D* to really worry about it right now. It isn't a priority ATM. This is just a guess, and SR may shoot down that notion completely.
  9. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    Let's see...who to believe, 2 guys not working for the company in question or one who's there with 1st hand knowledge?
  10. djzack67

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    Sep 18, 2007
  11. slimoli

    slimoli Hall Of Fame

    Jan 27, 2005
    I don't disagree but wouldn't be a good policy to stop installing /manufacturing MPEG2 and/or SD receivers now ?
  12. loudo

    loudo Well-Known Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    Central Maine
    Discovery ID HD and TruTV would both look so good on my HDTV. :sure:
  13. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    At some point the answer is yes. My guess is we're not at that point yet.

  14. FenixTX

    FenixTX Godfather

    Nov 11, 2005
    TruTV is a waste. Channel stinks and hardly has any HD programming. As much as I can't stand AMC or BBCA those channels should be added before that crappy channel.
  15. Satelliteracer

    Satelliteracer Hall Of Fame

    Dec 6, 2006
    The statement was "So they are not actively pursuing AMCHD - otherwise they'd have closed the deal years ago"....and that is incorrect. On every level.
  16. ejjames

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    Oct 2, 2006
    Not "TRU"! I love watching the latest episodes of The World's *blanketiest* *blankety* *blank* almost every night.
  17. Satelliteracer

    Satelliteracer Hall Of Fame

    Dec 6, 2006
    I don't believe I said that....I believe I said that it's in the eye of the beholder. There are those that will say the SD quality is worse at D* and there are thousands of consumers that say the complete opposite.

    I don't begrudge you or anyone else of their opinion, nor do I begrudge those that feel the opposite.

    Let me give you an example that I saw not long ago. A focus group was done showing a user interface. I won't state which one as it's not important, but roll with me here. Consumers were shown user interface #1 with all the bells and whistles, screen size image, etc. Consumers were shown an interface #2 and then an interface #3. All three interfaces consumers were allowed to play with, scroll through, use various buttons and inputs on the interface.

    After it was done, the consumers were asked about various likes and dislikes of the interfaces. One particular question centered on the size of the picture window, where video would play. It was fascinating to see that half the consumers thought that interface 3's picture window was larger than #1's. Almost half thought interface 2's was larger. The reality, the picture window for all three were EXACTLY the same. True story, happened within the last 18 months.

    I bring this up only to show that people see a lot of things. Our eyes see a lot of things. Sometimes our minds tell us things our eyes don't actually see, but think they saw.

    I believe what you see is what you see. I also believe that people who feel 180 degrees different than you on what they see. By definition, they both can't be correct, but when utilizing subjectivity...they can. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
  18. Hutchinshouse

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006
    Can we just stop all this crap and talk about HD channels we're missing? Excuses are getting old.

    SD-lite sucks.
    HD is neat.
    Directv has less basic HD than: DISH Network, AT&T U-Verse and FiOS.

  19. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    Sports are a joke on DISH and U-Verse forces you to buy sports pack and STARZ and showtime to get basic channels that you get on Directv, dish and fios.

    Yes on U-verse you have to buy movies packs (STARZ and showtime) to get MLB network (not in sports pack) and other channels.
  20. Coca Cola Kid

    Coca Cola Kid Hall Of Fame

    Jul 19, 2009
    Mt. Morris, MI
    How do you know it hardly has any HD if you have D*? I'm guessing you watched it on a provider that has it in HD. Well what shows did you see? Were they newer episodes of original shows; or were they older episodes of them / older reruns of Cops?

    I remember once last year TNT showed a bunch of Tru TV original shows to fill time when a NASCAR race ended early, and they were all in HD.
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