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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 26, 2011.
I noticed it's been over a month since Satelliteracer has posted. Lets hope he returns.
Um, did you just compare the la market to the philly one? They aren't even on the same planet in terms of RSNs for the Lakers. Lakers DMA reaches from Las Vegas to Hawaii to San deigo. Probably 8 times as many customers as the philly market has. Heck the LA DMA has twice the population in and by itself is over 3 times the size with probably 10 times as many carriers.
Not picking up the Lakers network will be costly, considering they'd stop offering something they have been offering for years. I know Directv isn't happy about it and the pac12 network (pac16 soon enough) but they are going to have to pick up those networks to keep from loosing customers. Philly never had the channel, so they aren't loosing customers, they just where never able to gain them. Big difference.
Yeah, but Packers RSN would reach the entire world!
(Otherwise known as my RSN is bigger than yourn...)
Ill vote for that.
Oh I get your point...drag your feet (D*'s SOON stance) for as long as possible..if more can launch before 2014, how come allotment always seems to come up in these forums as there never is any space for such??
and with my 500th post i became an ICON...heh heh
I learned from this fine site to not give any merit to Swanni at all, however the earnings report has nothing to do with Swanni..and they failed to meet substantial numbers....hate to be cliche' but numbers dont lie..for whatever reason they're not meeting expectations...
I know they were smaller markets, but there was a run of adding a whole bunch of LiL there after D12 went live too, and I wonder if that was a signficant driver for awhile in new net adds which has now saturated.
Please don't get him started!
My answers were to this stream of internet consciousness. DIRECTV still did better than the industry. The industry as a whole sucked because of the economy. (Contrary to Swanni's rants, it really is "the economy stupid.") (Not aimed at you or Swanni, by the way.)
Wall street misses all the time on expectations. The MSOs with more channels lost more customers. So perhaps DIRECTV's strategy wasn't as bad as you seem to imply.
I just want all my local Scranton, PA locals in HD, fox, abc, CBS, NBC, PBS are all HD but CW and MY are not I had all of my locals in hd on Blue ridge cable before I switched to D
Welcome to the forums! :welcome_s
Can you get the signals over the air with an AM21?
TVLAND is horrid now. They lost their way not showing real classics from the 50's and 60's.
If he's near me, it's hit or miss. You have to have a fairly large rooftop antenna in the Poconos to pick up OTA.
Yeah, I've lived in areas where OTA completely depends on what mountain is in your way. In fact, I live in one now and thankfully I have great line of sight to the towers.
I don't have a roof antenna, it's a newer home you need a rooftop to use am21 right? Thanks for the welcome to the forums.
It depends on the terrain where you live and where the transmitters are located. You can find some predictions at http://tvfool.com.
The biggest difference between Los Angeles and Philadelphia is that Comcast Sportsnet Philly launched in 1997, only a few years after DirecTV launched, and they had not yet established themselves as the de-facto provider for sports bars - they did not get the NFL Sunday Ticket exclusively until 1998. (Also, before 1997 they had the Prism Network, which carried all the teams, although it is not clear to me whether that network was, or was not carried by DirecTV)
Chances are high that in Philly, many bars have added DirecTV because they already had a deal with Comcast, instead of replacing Comcast with DirecTV, so in a sense.... DirecTV never really LOST business, they just didn't gain as much as they could have if they also had CSN Philly. They just added DirecTV for NFL ST.
Same is true for individuals, sports-fans of all Philly teams besides the Eagles, probably never switched away from cable.
In Los Angeles the Lakers (and potentially the Dodgers) have always been carried by DirecTV, and with NFL there was no reason for sports bars to have anything else BUT DirecTV. All local teams were there, and have been for many, many years....
So in this market.... DirecTV is going to LOSE a lot of business if the new RSN's are not carried, which was not necessarily the case in Philly. Time Warner here is VERY well aware of this, and as both the owner of the new RSN networks as well as the owner of more then 90% cable coverage in the greater Los Angeles Area, you can bet your behind they are going to campaign massively to get as many businesses - and individuals - as possible to switch over the fact that they might lose the Lakers if they keep DirecTV. (And a Dodger deal will probably happen as part of the McCourt divorce case, so we'll probably know before the summer if the Dodgers will move too, and then the party is twice as big at Time Warner's).
Personally.... I haven't watched a full length Lakes game in years. So I wouldn't switch to cable for it. But I know many people who will switch.
DirecTV is based in Los Angeles (El Segundo), and they have a history here, DirecTV is very popular as a provider. I don't think this is a case of "we did it, so can you" because the history is different, and this is well.... 2011, not 1997.
Yeah your right Paul. Thanks Viacom. Viacom seems quite good at losing their way with their networks.
I havent enjoyed a roof antenna since way back in the day when I used it, to get Philly UHF channels here in NYC..Manhattan to be exact.The sports I got from there, signal was good most of the time to pick up games, mostly at night..
UHF-17 had the Philles & the Sixers
UHF-29 had the Flyers till they moved to UHF 57 and i couldnt get that.
The VHF channels came in sometimes but they were too close to the NYC stations and you could tell when interference was STRONG on the NY VHF stations that meant the Philly UHF and some Philly VHF stations were coming in clear as glass..! Then my roof antenna became one for my stereo to get better reception on my FM radio stations, still have it to this day..
game on...and I'll put it back on topic
more HD? if any this year?? ?? Bueler?? Bueler???? ???? ............Bueler?
For the three years both existed (1994-1997), PRISM was never on DirecTV. And to be honest, I was never sure when D* started carrying all of the RSNs like they do today.