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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q4 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 20, 2010.

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  1. Laker44

    Laker44 Godfather

    Jun 18, 2008
    Dude. And may I say the same for your attitude. I respect everyone here and realize that we'll have different viewing habits and channels that they want in HD. I could care less about the majority of the channels that are repeatedly mentioned in thread or the previous anticipation threads, put I don't tell them they suck for requesting channel.

    Any HD channel that D* adds, is welcomed. I may not watch it, but someone else will.
  2. ejjames

    ejjames Icon

    Oct 2, 2006
    Since my wife has Comcast internet through her work, I noticed on the bill that it included "lifeline" cable. So I connected a small usb "stick" to my htpc to check it out. Along with locals, I could find WGN, TBS, CNN and a BOATLOAD of infomercials. After having D* since '95, the QAM HD was pretty good. Not as sharp as D*, but also not the "Big, Bad Wolf" many would have you think.
  3. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    +1 billion...I wish others here felt the same way.
  4. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Oh the agony!

    BBC America has a Top Gear marathon tomorrow, and they advertised it as "all in HD".

    This is torture! :D
  5. kenkraly2004

    kenkraly2004 AllStar

    Mar 14, 2010
    Directv needs to add AMC HD , and BBC America HD , What is taking them so long? All I keep hearing is we don't know when we are going to add those channels in HD or we have no news on those channels. . I am not intrusted in 3D I wan't more full-time HD Channels.
  6. mcl77

    mcl77 AllStar

    Nov 25, 2008
    why dont you switch?
    i work for a cable company, and while it had fewer hd channels (only because of the direct tv local sports hd),they have all the hd channels people ask for on this board (ifc, bbc, amc, etc)

    If they actually offered cable in my town, i would switch in a heartbeat. Because not only would it be free, but Id get those hd channels that ive been looking for.

    Also- the installation probably wouldnt include 2 holes on the exterior of my house.
  7. Joe C

    Joe C Godfather

    Mar 2, 2005
    You lost me on the USB stick, why do you need it and what does it do if you don't mind me asking ?
  8. erosroadie

    erosroadie Godfather

    Jan 9, 2007
  9. cypherx

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    A lot of people won't switch because DirecTV has them in Contract Hold. There's a lot more important things to spend money on then breaking a contract. They get ya by the Cojones!

    The USB stick is a digital TV tuner for the PC.
  10. Lord Vader

    Lord Vader Supreme Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 20, 2004
    Galactic Empire
    It's not often I agree with Swanni, but he makes a good point here.

    Why does DirecTV keep adding 3D when the focus should be on HD? I guess trying to satisfy the 12 people in the country who watch 3D is more important.
  11. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Interesting to find you at a satellite-only site, especially with the obvious sales pitch.

    I anticipate you guys will get even further behind in the HD channel count soon enough.
  12. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
  13. oldfantom

    oldfantom Icon

    Mar 13, 2006
    A couple of things, the first a question, the second a statement of fact. (1) Is n3d not already and offering. In which case they are not adding 3D, they are getting content for their existing channel. (2) Even if this is a brand new 3D, channel,it is not a question of either/or. They are not making a choice to add a 3D at the expense of another channel. They have the bandwidth, they are not adding. So the reasons for no new lower tier HD is not because of the 3D.
  14. iceturkee

    iceturkee DINFOS Trained Killer

    Apr 1, 2007
    i'm seriously considering. don't know why i keep hoping dtv is going to add more national hd.
  15. cypherx

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    I don't know, there's a lot of tricks in the toolbox in the Cable World.

    1. Analog reclamation
    2. Switched Digital Video
    3. Bandwidth Expansion (upgrade plant to 1GHz)
    4. MPEG4 - Cable hasn't even tapped this goldmine yet.
    5. Fiber deep & Node size reduction. (Reduce service groups to 125 homes passed or less) - Further enhances SDV efficiency.

    Could you imagine a 1 Ghz, SDV MPEG4 all digital cable system? They'd have practically infinite bandwidth to carry anything, especially with switched digital video.

    Technically speaking, they can surpass any satellite easily. It's just a matter of what type of investment they want to lay out.

    Not sure what tricks the Satellite industry can pull. Sure they can launch a new bird, but they do have to hope all the equipment and dishes out there can tune it. SDV? Maybe get some kind of spot beam thing going on and use internet connected receivers to talk back for a large scale SDV, but spot beams are too large to make any kind of switching architecture efficient. Maybe they could partner with the wireless industry and do some kind of multicast IP SDV over LTE as a bandwidth supplement to the existing birds out there, but other than that, cable will have the technical advantage, unless they come up with some new bird with 60+ transponders and larger data rates per transponders. Seriously why limit a bird at 24 or 32 transponders? Can't we design a new system where they could put 64 or 128 transponders out there? What about higher order symbol rates, for more bandwidth per MHz? But then still you'd have to replace receivers with ones that have the appropriate tuning capability - or provide some sort of adapter box to retro current installations. Nothing easy. You could fine tune the FEC rate to squeeze more data on a transponder but at the sacrifice of error correction / signal reliability. You can only fine tune an error correction algorithm so much. You can't get blood from a stone, so to speak.
  16. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    on cable 3 4 all need lots of boxes to be swapped out and I think cable is still giving out the old MPEG 2 HD boxes that can't do 1ghz as well.

    But with cables NEW DTA boxes MPEG 2 SD on cable will not die that quick.

    Also cables MPEG 2 HD is compressed in some systems and I hope that use for bandwidth to stop compressing that much.

    5 needs lots of hubs and nodes to be added.

    D* can start to trun off MPEG 2 SD and move some of the channels over to mpeg 4 SD and just have the MPEG 4 HD channels have no SD channel in MPEG 4 SD as well.
  17. cypherx

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    I hope that this is a considered option, because this would be a big help in the bandwidth allocation.

    I see A LOT of those old school single LNB DirecTV dishes. Would they need replacing, or just the receivers in those peoples homes?
  18. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    I can't imagine the cable industry slipping this one by the FCC. Given that MPEG4 wasn't ratified in the ATSC standards until two years ago, I'll bet the penetration of MPEG4 capable QAM TVs is relatively small. Ahh, to think we thought the analog to digital conversion was difficult.:eek:

    It would be a death blow to cable if they joined with DBS in requiring a tuner for every TV in the house.
  19. George_T

    George_T Legend

    Sep 19, 2002
    No plans of changing services. Overall, I'm happy with what I get through D.

    However, I do feel as if they dropped the ball on adding some of these HD feeds. I don't like AMC or BBC, but both of these should be carried. DIY/Cooking Channel would be great HD additions as well, and I would definitely watch both of them. You could add these four and a few others, and you could still have plenty more slots for future HD additions.

    FWIW, just think that there are still a few networks that would be great HD additions, and adding them would further cement their place as the best television provider.
  20. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    The challenge is that bandwidth (regardless of the delivery means) is not infinite, and the infrastructure to deliver the "perfect world" that cable would love involves billions of dollars (that they don't have) and years of time (that they also won't have if they keep losing customers like they have been...). I can't even imagine what the rates would be for that kind of service.

    No system is perfect, no list of channels is perfect. What is great, however, is that people have choices. My main point was questioning the motivation for the cable employee at a sat-only site, other than a sales pitch.
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