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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q4 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 20, 2010.

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  1. Hoosier205

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    Well, there is a bit more to it than that. The resolution of films (whether they be old or new) is much higher than a transfer done for Blu-ray purposes. The resolution of even old B&W films is far greater than DVD, HDTV, or Blu-ray.
     
  2. bige104

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    typical response from wis- who fans
     
  3. bige104

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    you sound as if Wisconsin is a national power in football. Now that is funny
     
  4. QuickDrop

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    While QVC is certainly not on the top of my most wanted listed, I've found your post one of the more informative I've read lately. The last time I contacted a content provider (BBCA) they took a more "political" no comment position. You at least got the channel on record saying they want to be carried and DirecTV doesn't want to carry them, which qualifies as more "information" on the subject.

    In terms of what HD channels D* should or shouldn't add, if D* gave their subscribers more confidence that they would be adding a lot more national HD channels, people would probably be less upset that a channel they don't watch could be added in HD. At this point, we're like a bunch of wild dogs fighting over scraps. For some people, that you might get a channel you want means they might not get the channel they want. It shouldn't be this way and it's DirecTV's fault for promoting new bandwidth without being clear about how that bandwidth will be used.
     
  5. hdtvfan0001

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    That sums up things nicely... :D
     
  6. Maruuk

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    Film is analog so there are no real "pixels." However, based on converted measures, a 35mm frame has 3 to 12 million pixels, depending on the stock, lens, and shooting conditions. An HD frame has 2 million pixels, measured using 1920 x 1080 scan lines. With this difference, 35mm appears vastly superior to HD.

    This is the argument most film purists use. The truth is, pixels are not the way to compare resolution. The human eye cannot see individual pixels beyond a short distance. What we can see are lines.

    Consequently, manufacturers measure the sharpness of photographic images and components using a parameter called Modulation Transfer Function (MTF). This process uses lines (not pixels) as a basis for comparison. Notice the lines in this resolution chart:

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    In MTF line resolution measurement, 35mm film and 1080 vid surprisingly come out about the same. Virtually interchangable resolution-wise. Probably why the full-HD 1080 definition standard is set where it is. Lossless to 35mm film.
     
  7. Steve

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    Great post, IMHO! Should be a "sticky".
     
  8. dbalone

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    Oprah's OWN Network will be starting Jan. 1 on channel 279. This according to her website. Does not say anything about HD.
     
  9. MysteryMan

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    Channel 279 is currently occupied by "Discovery Health Channel". Either it's been eliminated or will be relocated.
     
  10. DaveC27

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    IIRC "Discovery Health" is the Oprah channel, Discovery sold it to Harpo about a year ago. it seems that these days the best way to get your channel launched is to buy a failing one that already has carriage agreements
     
  11. joed32

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    I'm 70 so 5 years may very well be not in my lifetime.
     
  12. MysteryMan

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    Let's hope she doesn't buy a failing congressional or senate seat. :rolleyes:
     
  13. harsh

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    This is somewhat misleading as it infers that film is something that it isn't. Film has a coating of small particles; it isn't continuous as you suggest. The particles may not be uniformly arranged in a matrix, but they are distinct particles nonetheless.

    The major advantage is that the particles are really tiny.
     
  14. JoeTheDragon

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    that's how G4 got on Directv.
     
  15. Steve

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    Where is that suggested? He's simply trying to make an analogy without going into too much detail... high ISO 35mm film (for low-light shooting) uses coarser silver particles to capture more light and hence has a lower ability to resolve detail (~3mp) than the finest grain 35mm film (~12mp), which needs more light to capture an image on tinier silver particles.
     
  16. harsh

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    The difference here is that NTSC B/W and NTSC color were not mutually exclusive. NTSC color is NTSC B/W with an added color component.

    If you remember different versions of the programs, it almost certainly had something to do with several promoters of color television not using the NTSC compatable color scheme in and around 1948-1953.
     
  17. Jaspear

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    It most certainly did not. I remember plenty of programs from the 1950's and 60's. Many (most early on) were in black and white and some were in color. None of them had anything to do alternate color schemes, like the one that CBS wanted the FCC to adopt as the standard. In fact, CBS was the lone hold out on converting to NTSC color until the mid 60's, because of the sour grapes they had over the FCC decision.
     
  18. twaller

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    One bit of correction. The FCC Approved the CBS Color system initially, but it did not take off because of non compatibility with existing B&W sets, and strong resistance from RCA/NBC.
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

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    Ouch.... I'm rooting for less than 5 years AND you live to be 100! ;):)
     
  20. Jon J

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    Don't I recall the CBS system involved some sort of mechanical spinning wheel to effect color separation?
     
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