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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q4 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 20, 2010.

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  1. Oct 8, 2010 #601 of 4034
    jerrylove56

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    Can't get those "regional" without paying an extra fee, just like like ST, NBA, NHL, etc.
     
  2. Oct 8, 2010 #602 of 4034
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    You can watch the ones which fall into your local market or you can sub to the Sports Pack to get them all. Sunday Ticket, Center Ice, etc. are something else entirely. RSN's are national channels used to broadcast regional programming.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2010 #603 of 4034
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    I don't understand why people are obsessed with D*'s finances when they are customers. Their financial picture is irrelevant to my needs as a consumer. For me, getting basic channels such as USA, ESPN, Versus, etc. in HD, getting MSG in HD for NHL Center Ice, not having a downgrade service fee (looking at you E*) are my main factors for which TV provider I choose. DirecTV meets all those criteria so I have been a happy customer for many years.
    I guess the point of my rant is that if a TV provider doesn't meet my criteria, then I will cancel them and go elsewhere. If none of them meet my criteria, I will cancel TV altogether and go the internet route. If DirecTV stopped offering the NHL Center Ice package and removed Versus and FSC HD, I would cancel them, it would not matter to me whether they were just being cheap or if they had to for some financial reason. Honestly if AMC HD, BBC HD or any of the other oft-requested HD channels that E* has that D* doesn't are such a big deal to you, you should switch to E*. I thought seriously about doing this last year with the Versus debacle but fortunately that was resolved by NHL playoff time.
     
  4. Oct 8, 2010 #604 of 4034
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    Why are you so against people having the freedom to express their opinions? We don't have to agree with your opinion do we? Can't we all just agree to disagree if need be? :)
     
  5. Oct 8, 2010 #605 of 4034
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    Their finances have a direct impact on the products and services they offer customers.
     
  6. Oct 8, 2010 #606 of 4034
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    It wasn't about the opinion. It was about the fact that it completely missed the point of the very post being quoted. :rolleyes: Everyone here has the ability to express their own opinions. There is constant disagreement in this thread and in others. Of course we can disagree. No one is questioning that.
     
  7. Oct 8, 2010 #607 of 4034
    Alan Gordon

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    That's not always a viable option.

    DirecTV provides me with a more complete locals package. DirecTV provides me FX, DisneyXD, and ABC Family. They also provide me with MRV, and a cheaper monthly bill.

    Yes, I would gain 16 channels on Dish Network that I'd like to have, but I'd rather just wait until DirecTV provides me the ability to watch them.... particularly since the majority of my personal disappointment is related to THREE of the 16.

    ~Alan
     
  8. Oct 8, 2010 #608 of 4034
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    Which is why DirecTV needs to add much more national HD channels. Sure all the stuff out there doesn't appeal to everyone, but it obviously appeals to someone.

    The more wide variety services you offer, the more potential customers you can attract. The more customers you get hooked on the service, the more money your making. The happier these customers are, the faster the good word of mouth advertising goes, and more people switch to DirecTV.

    Make everyone happy. The guy next door with all his sports HD. The guy across the street with all of the movies in HD. The girls down the block who are hooked on reality TV and entertainment news in HD. Add something for everyone, expand your potential audience and grab more people into the service. The more HD channels offered, the better the service looks on paper and the more appeal the service has to potential subscribers.

    Again, more subs = more money in DirecTV's pockets. More Money can go into more innovation, new Satellite launches, new software enhancements, new hardware development, improvements with VOD, Apps and other new "2.0" future features.
     
  9. Oct 8, 2010 #609 of 4034
    Alan Gordon

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    A few minor nitpicks aside... +1

    ~Alan
     
  10. Oct 8, 2010 #610 of 4034
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    I agree from a customer's perspective, but from DirecTV's point of view...there would be many complicated issues to consider. Just one of those being that it costs you money to add new channels, services, etc. They would have to take a risk on how much of a return they would get on that. I know they want to grow their business, but going all in may not be the best move for them. It would be great for us though. I don't know. I am sure there is much more going into these decisions than any of us are aware of. Oversimplification is a massive problem I deal with in my line of work and I see it playing out here as well. People want something and assume it is far easier to achieve than it really is.
     
  11. Oct 8, 2010 #611 of 4034
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    I didn't miss anything. There is a group of people here that act as if they were Directv board members, not customers. This is a CUSTOMER forum, or isn't it ? This is not a "How wonderful and smart is Directv as a company" and , although I respect those who think that way, it's not the object of this thread.
     
  12. Oct 8, 2010 #612 of 4034
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    Then you should have said that as a separate post. You completely missed the point of the post you quoted. This is the HD channel anticipation thread...so let's get back to it.
     
  13. Oct 8, 2010 #613 of 4034
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    I was bored, so I looked up the top cable networks for 2009. Overall, here's the list (Top 33):
    USA 3.278 million average viewers +15%
    DISNEY 2.534 +6%
    ESPN 2.253 +9%
    TNT 2.254 +2%
    FOX NEWS 2.210 +7%
    TBS 1.838 -7%
    NICK AT NIGHT 1.734 +2%
    A&E 1.467 +8%
    ABC FAMILY 1.353 +4%
    FX 1.369 +10%
    CARTOON 1.302 -3%
    SYFY 1.276 -0%
    DISCOVERY 1.253 +4%
    HISTORY 1.212 +3%
    HGTV 1.202 +9%
    LIFETIME 1.185 -20%
    FOOD 1.119 +26%
    HALLMARK 1.104 -18%
    AMC 1.041 -6%
    TLC 1.070 +18%
    TRUTV 1.090 +0%
    SPIKE 1.063 -17%
    COMEDY CENTRAL 992 -10%
    CNN 908 -30%
    MSNBC 817 -12%
    MTV 807 -10%
    BRAVO 796 +6%
    BET 777 +23%
    VH1 744 +0%
    TVLAND 720 -8%
    ESPN2 694 +8%
    HBO 693 +41%
    E! 592 +7%


    Only 4 aren't in HD on DirecTV.

    For the demographic that matters to adverti$er$, adults 18-49, only 1 is not HD.

    USA 1.383 +6%
    ESPN 1.090 +6%
    TBS 1.064 -6%
    TNT 1.031 +1%
    FX 780 +10%
    A&E 702 +2%
    DISCOVERY 675 +3%
    ABC FAMILY 610 +4%
    SYFY 606 -2%
    COMEDY 591 -12%
    SPIKE 591 -7%
    HISTORY 561 +3%
    FOOD 560 +26%
    NICK NITE 558 -8%
    TLC 556 +13%
    DISNEY 554 +12%
    MTV 530 -9%
    TRUTV 522 +12%
    LIFETIME 510 -17%
    VH1 476 -2%


    My points...1.) BBCA isn't that popular as one would think after reading around here. 2.) There's not many popular channels left for HD.
     
  14. Oct 8, 2010 #614 of 4034
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    I agree, oversimplification of a problem is all too easy to get into. I'm in the I.T. industry in the financial world, and while we could easily do certain things, we are bound by many federal, state and local regulations. Plus theres that big ugly C word in my field of work... compliance.

    It's hard for the armchair quarterback to see what in the world is going on behind the scenes at DirecTV. One view, and yes this is oversimplified, would be Content providers should be pushing DirecTV for carriage. Especially if DirecTV already carries their content in SD.

    For example DirecTV already pays Rainbow media to carry AMC on their channel lineup. What's the harm in showing it in HD? Wouldn't Rainbow media PREFER their content was viewed in HD by a larger audience? It would make their content look so much better, and more people are willing to watch HD programs than SD. More viewership = more money from advertising. Plus I'm sure the director of Mad Men, for example, would much rather people enjoy his content in glorious HD. After all that hard work and time the production team put into the show, wouldn't they want people to enjoy it in the best quality as possible? From that perspective, you would think DirecTV should be pressured from the content providers AS WELL AS us customers.

    However, as you said, it's easy to oversimplify the situation. Who really knows what's going on behind closed doors at DirecTV? Whoever does won't post about it here. They would like to stay employed. :)
     
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    Here's a cookie

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    Don't mind if I do...
     
  17. Oct 8, 2010 #617 of 4034
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    :lol::goodjob:
     
  18. Oct 8, 2010 #618 of 4034
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    I realized I forgot to include my point. :lol: Oops!
     
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    ;) Sorry, just in a slap happy mood. :p
     
  20. Oct 8, 2010 #620 of 4034
    Alan Gordon

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    Which either proves that tonyd is correct in his belief that DirecTV's "What's Hot!" is flawed, or that DirecTV customers have differing viewing habits than the majority of Nielsen testers.

    Ironically, there are multiple channels on that list in which I don't know many people (or in some cases, any) who watch their programming, and multiple channels NOT on that list in which I know MANY people who watch their channel. Now, obviously that means nothing in the whole of things, but it's important to remember that just because a channel is not one of the top channels, doesn't mean there aren't a heck of a lot of people out there that watch them...

    ~Alan
     
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