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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q4 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 20, 2010.

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  1. Oct 9, 2010 #781 of 4034

    cmasia Icon

    Sep 18, 2007
    Las Vegas

    Have you ever been with a bunch of guys in a bar?

    Let's say you are a big fan of a certain team, and nothing - or very little - can change your allegiance.

    The team is playing well, but you notice certain areas where they could improve.

    Do you not voice your opinion?

    Do you not talk about your team's strengths and weaknesses?

    Do you not say, "Gee, if only we had this guy in this position?"

    If you're in the bar, the ownership of the team cannot hear you, but you offer your compliments and criticisms to your friends as the game goes on just the same. Because you care.

    This place is exactly the same.

    It's a place for like minded people to talk about D* - what they like and what they don't like.

    You take a pounding here because you don't get that.

    Just lighten up a little.

  2. Oct 9, 2010 #782 of 4034

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Taking a pounding? Hadn't noticed. Anyway...looking forward to the next festivus and DirecTV expanding their already sizable lead.
  3. Oct 10, 2010 #783 of 4034

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006
    I thought you were going to remove PPVHD from your totals?

    8 channels showing the very same program 200 times a week is not a "channel". If you count them you're just feeding the beast. 40+ PPVHD channels is just a tad too much. Most people don't choose a provider because they show the same movie 200 times a week. In my eye, counting PPVHD is nothing but padding numbers.

    Still waiting for non RSN, non PPVHD and non $12.99 channels. Kind of sad DIRECTV is no longer the HD powerhouse. Without RSN and PPVHD, DIRECTV is getting smoked by the competition. I never thought I'd say that. With all of the sat launches, I thought DIRECTV was untouchable. What a bummer.
  4. Oct 10, 2010 #784 of 4034
    Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia
    First of all, I'd like to thank tonyd79 for asking an intelligent question.

    While I'm certainly not in the crowd that believes Dish is sitting back and laughing, I have stated several times before that it would not be wise of DirecTV to rest on their laurels (in other words, there channel number lead that is often pointed out), or their sports packages, etc., so I will elaborate a little bit on my own personal thoughts.

    DirecTV has the most sports in HD... that's great (I even chuckled with Dish's new advertising campaign now that they've lost considerable RSNs), and DirecTV has the most PPV in HD... that's great! HOWEVER, they are trailing behind in national BASIC channels. I have seen many people post ratings here to belittle this discrepency, stating that MANY of these channels are unimportant to most viewers, but I find that hard to believe.

    Take for instance DIY. While it's not one of my MAIN wants personally, it is a channel I will be glad that they add. However, pretty much EVERY person I know watches this channel from time to time. Now, granted, I'm not saying they watch this channel as much as say, USA Network, nor am I saying that a majority of DirecTV customers are going to leave DirecTV in order to get this channel in HD, but I am saying that I feel there are a healthy number of subscribers with DirecTV who would probably enjoy this channel in HD.

    Of the 40 BASIC channels that DirecTV carries in SD that is available in HD, but not on DirecTV, there are still some pretty big names as far as national channels go... maybe not the ratings success of USA, TNT, Nick, Disney, etc., but certainly quite a few where I can name multiple people who consistently watch programming on that channel.

    Sadly, I don't think this discrepency will concern DirecTV that much this year. I'd say perhaps next year, but I still believe that DirecTV WILL do better in regards to national BASIC channels in the months ahead, so it may all be a moot point.

    I think that AMC is probably one of the HD channels not on DirecTV that has the most complaints. Sadly, I can't say that about two of my most wanted HD channels (BBCA & TCM)... :(

    While I do think (if they stay on the current course, which I don't believe they will) it's possible DirecTV will start feeling the effects sometime next year (and would hopefully take steps to stop those effects should my first prediction be wrong), I do not expand that to doom or wronghead(ed?)ness. I just think they need to be careful...

    I don't think cablecos have a very high penetration in my neck of the woods. For one, it's a VERY rural area, so there are MANY houses that can't get cable, and the local cableco's satisfaction is VERY LOW. Years ago, it was pretty common to see a DirecTV or Dish Network dish on or by a house. Once Dish Network started offering locals here seven years ago, pretty much EVERY SINGLE dish became a Dish Network dish. I know like one person with cable, one person with DirecTV, and everybody else is Dish Network.

    When DirecTV added locals here in August (and added CBS last month), they are the satellite provider to beat when it comes to the local channel package, and I would gladly recommend DirecTV to any SD customer, but I would feel obligated to point out to ANYBODY who wants HD, that DirecTV is FAR BEHIND on many of the BASIC channels. I look forward to the day when that difference is considerably smaller.

  5. Oct 10, 2010 #785 of 4034

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Which two?
  6. Oct 10, 2010 #786 of 4034

    am7crew Legend

    Jun 5, 2009
    no if he did that he would have to admit Dish has more than Directv and although he doesnt not get paid from D* or compensated in any way shape or form he feels the need to promote and in some ways mislead the truth about that company.
  7. Oct 10, 2010 #787 of 4034

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    May 17, 2010
    You forgot to add VOD with your count. We're getting a digital suppository with all the PPV!
  8. Oct 10, 2010 #788 of 4034

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    I guess I'm to the point where:

    1) I'm 98% satisfied with what is offered today - but a couple more select channels would be welcome when available.

    2) I could care less what any other provider offers at this point - as I have no intention of switching in the foreseeable future.

    3) Counting channels is an exercise in waste of time - you either have what you want to see or you don't. All the providers use fuzzy math for channel counts - it simply doesn't matter.

    I'm busy watching tons of great HD channel content - recording tons on the HD DVR's here - and have enough challenge at times trying to make sure I see what I have already recorded, let alone worry about one certain program that I missed (which hasn't happened in a very long time anyway).

    I anticipate we'll still see a few more HD channels come down the pike before year end - and likely a couple this month still. Great. The timing and "urgency" that some have simply isn't shared here. I guess its the difference between being an HDTVFAN and HDTVFANATIC - I'm not changing my name any time soon. :D
  9. Oct 10, 2010 #789 of 4034

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    AMC HD and BBCA HD
  10. Oct 10, 2010 #790 of 4034

    Cyberclaw77 Cool Member

    Aug 1, 2010

    Hmmm... Perhaps DirecTV could adapt these two channels to a custom PPV model, where we have to pay for them in 2 hour blocks.
  11. Oct 10, 2010 #791 of 4034

    syphix Hall Of Fame

    Jun 23, 2004
    +1. Well said.
  12. Oct 10, 2010 #792 of 4034

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ

    Almost every TV today sold is HD, and the majority of shows are now in HD. So how many more years do you guys think until HD will be the standard?
  13. Oct 10, 2010 #793 of 4034

    Sixto Well-Known Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Personally, I'm just as interested in HD capacity as what's "live". Not having the ability to launch an HD channel at a moments notice would be a real problem, and right now bandwidth is not an issue.

    It seems fairly obvious that the current HD selection is only limited by the dollars associated with a channel (infrastructure & content fees), therefore if churn became an issue they could easily launch any HD channel that the business desires. Another way to look at it, is that it appears that DirecTV is tightly managing their business through this rough economy and they've chosen (for now) to stick to their business model, on their terms. Painful to hear for some, but probably true, especially since the business continues to grow and their competition may have worse issues (Dish's dispute with Fox, and TiVo).

    It's also fairly obvious that there's particular issue with doing deals with their competition: Comcast (E!, Style, G4, RSN's, ...), Cablevision (AMC, IFC, WE tv, ...), and a different issue surrounding premium content with HBO/Cinemax, each of which may have the same philosophy as DirecTV, that they want their terms for any deal.

    It's just a matter of who caves first, or maybe there's a particular fiscal quarter in mind (when funds are planned to be more freely available).

    And in the meantime, personally, I get 98% of what I desire in HD, that's not the same for all in this thread, but it seems likely that most of the missing mainstream HD channels will eventually come, it's just a matter of when the financials work out with a provider or churn rises. Difficult balancing act. Again, not a good answer for some, but it certainly beats the alternative of being bone dry with bandwidth.
  14. Oct 10, 2010 #794 of 4034

    adkinsjm Icon

    Mar 25, 2003
    HD will be the standard when DirecTV stops leasing SD-only boxes.
  15. Oct 10, 2010 #795 of 4034
    Ira Lacher

    Ira Lacher Icon

    Apr 24, 2002

    Time constraints have prevented me from posting extensively, but while I have a few minutes on a Sunday morning, I thought I'd just share these observations:

    • I wish D* would have more HD channels, particularly AMC and BBCA. But having compared pricing, other channel avails (GOL TV, the UEFA channels, MLB) and E*'s penchant for losing channels right and left, I have decided to stay with D* (I am out of contract) and hope for better days.
    • I can't believe that D* does not wish to add the HD channels that set E* apart in programming at this point. It seems more likely that D*'s failure to add HD channels is not technical but contractual: They may not be able to reach the kind of agreements they would prefer, and as a result they are delaying adding the channels.
    • I am not 100 percent satisfied with D*s programming. But I am nowhere dissatisfied enough to want to switch to E*. And Mediacom cable in Des Moines is a joke compared with satellite.
    • I understand everyone's frustration with not having the same number of HD channels as the other guy. Analyze your options and switch. Or don't switch. But do it because it is what you wish to do.
    I now return to my regularly scheduled life.
  16. Oct 10, 2010 #796 of 4034

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    While reading this thread and the previous one, it came to me that the reason that you may not be getting these channels, like AMC and BBCA in HD, is that D* is doing fine from a business standpoint and doesn't feel the need to do much to placate what they consider a relatively small segment of their subscriber base.

    Makes sense.
  17. Oct 10, 2010 #797 of 4034
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    One thing is for certain .. If DIRECTV doesn't have the channel you are looking for .. you'll be wishing they did.
  18. Oct 10, 2010 #798 of 4034

    sportshermit Legend

    Aug 22, 2007
    Nat Geo Wild
    History Int
    Rogers Sportsnet
  19. Oct 10, 2010 #799 of 4034

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    Then hopefully the FCC just says "No" to the Comcast/NBCU merger. Could you imagine the problems that could arise if Comcast owned all of NBCU's content? They will have a huge lock on the entire industry!
  20. Oct 10, 2010 #800 of 4034

    joed32 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 27, 2006
    I'll ask you again, in your opinion will either or both of these or TCM be in HD by the end of this year. I'm not asking you for a "set in stone prediction" just your opinion.
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