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DirecTV HD GUI Anticipation

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by cypherx, Mar 31, 2011.

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  1. Sixto

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    Would be interested in any evidence that the information is not correct.

    I always try to learn from folks smarter then me on these topics, and have always been intrigued by Ken_F's posts, which have been rare over the years.

    If there's someone with better information, or someone who's willing to take the time to investigate to enable better conclusions, then that would be great.

    This seems pretty cut-and-dry to me, we know the processor in the HR20, the HR21/22/23, and HR24-500. Not so sure of the exact processor number in the other HR24's but someone might know here.

    Knowing the exact processors, it should enable someone who's knowledgeable to post what each is specifically capable of, rather then all the guessing and babble here. :)

    I was always frustrated that we were guessing about the satellite stuff and HD utilization, then figured that it was worth the time to just go figure it out, even though I had no clue at the time where to even start.

    It seems like the same can be said about the HD GUI. Need someone smart to tell us what the boxes are actually capable of, and until now I've only found Ken_F to post anything credible.

    But there's always the opportunity for someone to do the legwork and become an expert on the topic, and post the possibilities.
     
  2. harsh

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    Outside of networking on the H20 and 3D, can you think of any major feature that isn't available to all of the H(R)2x series?

    Do you anticipate that DIRECTV will add many more features that aren't available to all PlusĀ® HD models?

    I suspect that as long as DIRECTV refuses to differentiate between the various implementations, the feature sets will remain substantially identical. To do otherwise would surely cause confusion both internally and with customers.
     
  3. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    I agree. I also hope DirecTv has better programmers than Tivo does. The HD GUI on the Premier, which has the processor to support it, uses Flash, and everything needed for a top notch GUI, it pitiful. Its grid guide only displays 8 channels x 1.5hr, is not customizable, is NOT sharp, is NOT fast. SageTV's HDGUI on the other hand, works across all its media extender platforms, all its computer display platforms, is fully customizable, is sharp, scales down to SD with the toggle of a menu item, supports as many channels x as many hours on the screen as you can set the font small enough to read, dynamically. The former works only on the newest CPU platform, the latter works on older cpu's in their older media extenders as well as their new one.

    Since history has shown that DirecTv pretty much wants standardization, without customization, I certainly hope they do not take the Tivo approach (a half finished GUI that reverts to SD with almost any submenu selection). I would much prefer a 16:9 SD upscaled GUI that worked well, and was logical (that SKY GUI linked earlier looked great).
     
  4. rrdirectsr

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    According to a meeting I saw the new GUI will be rolled out to about 75% of HD equipment in Q3 this year (2011). I saw the screen shots and demo and it is lightning fast and the icons are pretty cool.


    Note: my comments and view points are my own and not that of DirecTV.
     
  5. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    75% would seem to rule out one HR series...Wonder which one :)
     
  6. rrdirectsr

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    Not sure if that's why they mentioned the 75% or if it's just rolled out in stages like the regular software is. (e.g. MT time zone from 04/15 - 05/01 PT Time zone 05/01 - 05/15), etc).
     
  7. sigma1914

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    Tivo? :lol: 24s? :eek2:
     
  8. Rich

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    Did you see my post to you about the capacitive wand for the iPad? You can find it on amazon.com.

    Rich
     
  9. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    I've seen those...Thanks Rich. Unfortunately, I can't easily hold those. I appreciate the suggestion. :)
     
  10. Rich

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    Oh well, I thought of you when I saw it and thought it might be usable.

    Rich
     
  11. Jeremy W

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    It comes down to a very simple equation: HD GUI is supported in all HR2x/H2x receivers, where x > 0.

    The HR20 and H20 don't support it, all of the others do. We've already seen the HR20 get left behind with 3D, and the H20 may as well be roadkill anyway with all of the stuff it doesn't support. This is just another nail in the coffin for those two lines. It also explains the earlier 75% comment.
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

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    I suspect this is all pretty much on the right track...

    Having seen all the work the past 1-2 years on getting the UI consistent across the HD device inventory...it seems safe to assume that the idea of having "one UI for all HD devices going forward would seem logical and consistent with the work done to date.
     
  13. joed32

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    I'm still using 3 HR20s, but I would be OK without an HD GUI.
     
  14. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    I offer the 50 series limit.
     
  15. trdrjeff

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    :righton: I anticipate it being a blessing...
     
  16. ejjames

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    I'm afraid that if an HD GUI comes to everything but my 2 HR20's they may show signs of failu...woops, there goes one now...good thing I was right there with the fire extinguisher! ;)

    Disclaimer: The preceding paragraph was fictitious and for entertainment purposes only. We fully expect to get many more years from your fine product!
     
  17. davring

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    I'll keep my HR20's reliability over an HD GUI anyday.
     
  18. hdtvfan0001

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    That cap is across all HD DVRs based on design.

    At this time, 3D support is the only known true "limit" for the HR20 series compared to other units running the same UI platform.

    You'll have to do better with your examples...good luck.
     
  19. harsh

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    The onus was to show proof that the database engine used in the HR2x series was "frail". I believe that the post-introduction imposition of the 50 series limit is a clear admission of that. I think we can agree that there was no user outcry for the limit to be imposed and that a part of the community views it as a deficiency.

    Suggesting that the HR21-3 models (outside of the HR24) are necessarily more powerful is not supported by the relative guide speed and documented evidence of reduced processing capacity. Raw processing capability isn't everything so I've asked a follow-up question.
    My question to you in offering this fact in the first place: where is DIRECTV going to draw the line when, if ever, they add features (like an HD GUI) to the Plus HD line. Repeating my givens doesn't address my question, it only affirms that the question warrants an thoughtful answer.
     
  20. Laxguy

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    Could someone please give a definition of this "50 series limit"?

    Does anyone know if the guide is drawn using anything like HTML?
     
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