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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q1 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Dec 22, 2009.

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  1. Jan 14, 2010 #461 of 1240
    jacmyoung

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    I thought the new hardware should be provided by DirecTV, not TiVo, so if he did not have the hardware to start testing yet, whose fault was that?

    Please, you did not mean had the hardware been ready for TiVo, TiVo would not have some kind of firmware ready at least for testing by now?
     
  2. Jan 14, 2010 #462 of 1240
    hdtvfan0001

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    It is a joint partnership....DirecTV will specifiy and/or provide the hardware component, and Tivo will provide the firmware/software component.

    Both parties will need to be near completion before any prototype can be tested, and then put into production - they have not reached that stage yet, or so we were told by both the Tivo and DirecTV folks at the CES.
     
  3. Jan 14, 2010 #463 of 1240
    Richierich

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    I was referring to Directv providing them with the hardware and then they apply their firmware/software and after testing it to their satisfaction, they hand it off to Directv for their testing.
     
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    Syzygy

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    Putting these two widely separated posts together, I'd like to assume that "This Gentleman" was the source for "it [the new TiVo] will come out in Q2 2011 or later."

    Is my assumption correct?
     
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    Jeremy W

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    Look at the Tivo Premiere box, which is their own hardware. Still vaporware, and you can't blame DirecTV on that one.
     
  6. Jan 14, 2010 #466 of 1240
    Doug Brott

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    I'll give you my reason for now saying Q1/2011 .. It's been 1 year since we first thought that there MIGHT be something from TiVo on the DIRECTV front. Seemed to be almost a given that there would be something at CES this year. NADA other than "we still expect it in 2010" and it seems that was kinda iffy in how it was said (based on posters, not first hand experience) .. I don't know when it will be out, but just based on all of the intel, 12 months from now seems a lot more likely now than it did 2-3 weeks ago.
     
  7. Jan 14, 2010 #467 of 1240
    hdtvfan0001

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    I believe that based on our most recent direct information onsite at CES, your assessment is accurate and as up-to-date as can be.
     
  8. Jan 14, 2010 #468 of 1240
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    Had DirecTV already handed them the new generation of hardware in the first place?
     
  9. Jan 14, 2010 #469 of 1240
    hdtvfan0001

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    I was with Rich onsite...and they simply did not tell us the answer to that question, nor would I have anticipated them to do so - that's part of the inner workings of the project, which they would typically not make "public" in any form.
     
  10. Jan 14, 2010 #470 of 1240
    Stuart Sweet

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    My reasoning is simpler than that... presuming that everything TiVo's ever done has taken twice as long as the public expected, I looked at the year since the last announcement and doubled it :)
     
  11. Jan 14, 2010 #471 of 1240
    smiddy

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    How much longer are you willing to wait and I'll let you know if you will be leaving DirecTV. :D
     
  12. Jan 14, 2010 #472 of 1240
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    Both the Comcast Tivo project and Series 3 were over a year behind their original target release dates....so there is plenty of evidence to support your views too - that would make both you and Doug right on, despite different reasons. ;):D
     
  13. Jan 14, 2010 #473 of 1240
    loudo

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    The question is, "Are we close enough to say SOON". :hurah:
     
  14. Jan 14, 2010 #474 of 1240
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    Then why so many people blame TiVo for not making the new DVR ready? We don't even know if DirecTV ever made that new hardware ready for TiVo in the first place.
     
  15. Jan 14, 2010 #475 of 1240
    hdtvfan0001

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    Complex projects overshoot target dates all the time. When there are two parties involved, it makes it even more complex. I work in such an environment, and despite everyone's best efforts..the simply take longer than expected.

    I don't point fingers....it just happens, even with the best efforts and best of intentions by all parties. I suspect the same may hold true in this case.
     
  16. Jan 14, 2010 #476 of 1240
    Richierich

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    I predict when the HR24 comes out you will not care any longer about the New MPEG-4 DIRECTIVO DVR because it will satisfy alot of your complaints with one exception.

    You will be so Happy and you will not be able to complain and that may cause a problem for you and others who like to constantly complain.

    What if it works so Great that you no longer yearn for your Directivo???

    What will you do then?

    I believe you will have to seach hard to find something to complain about then and hopefully you will be very happy. Doesn't mean you can't still buy a Directivo and have both.
     
  17. Jan 14, 2010 #477 of 1240
    jacmyoung

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    All I am saying is, in this case people can’t blame TiVo for the delay unless we are fairly certain DirecTV had already provided TiVo with the new generation of hardware. But if we simply take a look at the DirecTV server we have seen at the CES, it was still a “prototype”, it is not unreasonable to speculate that maybe DirecTV has not made the new hardware ready for TiVo to seriously start to implement the new DirecTiVo DVR testing.
     
  18. Jan 14, 2010 #478 of 1240
    Stuart Sweet

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    I can not comment other that to say that I am "fairly certain."
     
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    Richierich

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    How do you know it was just a "Prototype"? I don't. We assumed that it was a Prototype but we don't know how close to being a Finished Product it is.

    I would bet my "House" that TiVo has the Hardware and is now doing their job at creating the software but remember how long Directv has been perfecting this HR2X DVR (over 2 years) and do you think TiVo can start from the scratch and build a totally new system according to Directv Specs in less than the 2 years it has taken Directv. I for one do not think so.

    I think it will be about the same timeline so that leaves us a year out. So I am looking to see it Q1 2011.
     
  20. Jan 14, 2010 #480 of 1240
    Alan Gordon

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    I'm still recovering from the completion of a project at work, and quite frankly, I haven't cared to reply to many of the posts the last couple of days. Not to mention I've been busy debating which Series Links I need to delete to make room for "Southland", "24", "The Human Target", and "Caprica". ;)

    HOWEVER, the above got my attention! Are you saying that the HR24 is a different animal than the HR20/21/22/23?

    ~Alan
     
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