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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q1 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Dec 22, 2009.

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  1. Alan Gordon

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    Wasn't there another article from another company stating that it too would be providing chips for the HR24... or am I confused?! :confused:

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  2. Mike Bertelson

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    Yes, a company called Trident Micro which has aquired the NXP chip.

    http://www.tridentmicro.com/producttree/stb/satellite-stb/cx2450x/

    It's the same chip which has apparently passed between companies. There are a few sources on the web that say this is the chip for the HR24.

    The question is which platform the DirecTiVo will be on and my money is the HR23. :grin:

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  3. Alan Gordon

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    OH... I could have sworn there was another. Oh well! :p

    I keep hoping that's not true. TonyD has already been quite vocal about the performance of the TiVoHD (with the same chips)... which is not surprising given my own feelings about the HR23 (how could anything bad happen to that number? :p ).

    I guess... maybe if the new DirecTiVo is neutered considerably from the stand-alones that MAYBE it might not matter... but then there are the DirecTV features it needs to add. :(

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  4. Mike Bertelson

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    I don't think you can remove the heat sink. It doesn't look like it has any releases. It seems to use an adhesive/conductive compound. I’m not sure that it would be very easy and might damage something.

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  5. Sixto

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    The other company was Entropic. They do the MoCA.

    NXP (now Trident Micro) for processor. Entropic for Coax Networking.
     
  6. Mike Bertelson

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    There was also a press release from NXP which states.

    http://www.nxp.com/news/content/file_1671.html

    That pretty much locks it up for me. That is the chip in the HR24s.

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  7. Alan Gordon

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    Nah... I'm pretty sure it's just my memory playing tricks on me... :(

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  8. Sixto

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    There are other ways to be fairly certain of the NXP processor.

    There are other support chips that make up the NXP solution, and the first look does vaguely look like it contains one. Can't 100% confirm without a better photo, but looks like NXP on one of the chips, and Entropic on another.
     
  9. Richierich

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    According to NXP, the NXP CX24500 Chipset only supports MPEG-2 Decoding and no mention of MPEG-4 Decoding so there must be another Support Chipset that Decodes MPEG-4 from Directv.
     
  10. Jeremy W

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    H.264 is MPEG-4, which the CX24500 does.
     
  11. Richierich

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    Thanks for the Info but why don't they just Specify it as MPEG-4?
     
  12. Jeremy W

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    MPEG-4 is a collection of standards. H.264 is a specific standard, also known as MPEG-4 AVC.
     
  13. balboadave

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    Is there any chance the new TiVo box will be based on the HR24, or even just be the software running on an actual HR24? That would make this a slam dunk decision for me.
     
  14. ATARI

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    The consensus I get is that it will be the HR23. But nobody knows for sure. Only time will tell.
     
  15. Syzygy

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    If the new TiVo box is not "based on" the HR24, but instead on the HR23, there'll be a lot of unhappy people who've been waiting for about two years — for close to nothing (or "thanks for nothing").

    As someone who is often repulsed by the HR2x's slovenly software, I would still find it hard to justify buying (oops, leasing) a slow MPEG-4 TiVo if a twice-as-fast HR24 is available at the same time.
     
  16. Jeremy W

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    If it's based on the HR23, then it'll be the same as the Tivo HD. What is so difficult to understand about that?
     
  17. Syzygy

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    You're taking a very condescending tone. Did I say it was "difficult to understand?"

    What might be difficult, in this age of rapid obsolescence, is for nerds like me to settle for older, slower hardware — even if it's accompanied by (presumably) state-of-the-art software. (WRT "state-of-the-art," I'm thinking of TiVo's scheduling and searching methods as well as ergonomics, not necessarily a high-def UI.)
     
  18. Syzygy

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    If the following statement (from AVSForum) is true, and the HR23 is indeed discontinued, it could be because (1) no more are being made, or (2) they're all destined to be TiVos. Which could it be?
     
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    It's likely just due to the added cost of the wideband tuners. With D* going to the SWM approach the added expense does not make sense...
     
  20. RobertE

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    More fud. Great. :rolleyes:

    HR23s were still rolling of the production line in late Novemember.
    New HR22s & HR23s are still being sent out through the distribution channel.
    Tivo is late (behind schedule as always), so I seriously doubt that any significant amount of hardware is being sent their way.
     
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