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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q1 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Dec 22, 2009.

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  1. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    This is not the right place to discuss what you perceive to be the limitations of the HR2x series, nor is the right place to discuss the rather interesting evolution of the Macintosh. However, your point is taken, if I understand it properly; that you do not believe that the developers at TiVo Inc. are using fast enough hardware.
     
  2. leftheaded

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    currently, i'm a dish subscriber, but considering a switch to directv. if i go with the current promotion (whatever it is idk) what are the odds that i'd be able to change to a tivo box when its offered?
     
  3. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    I doubt you'd be able to swap out.
     
  4. Alan Gordon

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    I'm sorry... I meant to specify that I meant people I know "offline"... and apparently forgot to...

    Obviously, I know others on here who fall into the same category as me, but then some of us are "abnormal"! ;) :p :grin:

    ~Alan
     
  5. Alan Gordon

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    This is a question I've wondered myself.

    Since there will apparently be an extra charge for the TiVo service, I have wondered myself if there will be an option to "swap" for a TiVo-capable box.

    ~Alan
     
  6. RobertE

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    I think TiVo Inc. isn't using fast enough developers for the hardware. :lol:
     
  7. Mike Bertelson

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    I kind of think you'll be able to. It's going to be an extra charge, presumably, and I would think that TiVo isn’t going to wait for whatever percentage of new installs goes to them to build a customer base. I’ll bet that there will be a way to upgrade...just a guess but from a business stand point it makes sense.

    Mike
     
  8. Lord Vader

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    On my primary HDTV, I've got three HD DVRs connected (and another in the master BR, and more...). Sometimes all three of them are recording something at the same time. Trouble is, I have NO time to watch this stuff. Maybe I'll spend part of my summer break (I'm a teacher) catching up on 15 months' worth of recordings. :lol:
     
  9. harsh

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    As the HR2x is still thought to be the hardware basis of the new DIRECTiVo, the "official" thread for the DIRECTiVo would seem to be uniquely the right place to discuss both hardware and software aspects of the unit and how each impacts the other.
    They're using what DIRECTV gave them and it is up to TiVo to make what they can work. They only have control over the software.

    I believe that TiVo is relatively good at managing expectations.
     
  10. tonyd79

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    Then you have no idea what is going on with the Premiere. They built up huge expectations to deliver very little.

    Or what happened with the Comcast Tivo. Again. Pretty much DOA.

    Tivo is pretty much like the one hit wonder or the author who only has one book in them. They had a great idea more than a decade ago. Not much since.
     
  11. wingrider01

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    would guess so, for a price and a commitment
     
  12. Syzygy

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    First, many screens in the Premiere GUI (those that haven't been replaced by Flash-based screens) look like those in the classic GUI. Second, the ComcasTiVo GUI also looks like the classic GUI. (I'm ignoring the PiG; I'd like to suppress it.)

    Finally, I don't hate the classic TiVo GUI. While I would appreciate a hi-def GUI, or at least a new font where 'I' and 'l' (lowercase L) don't look exactly the same, TiVo's classic GUI is acceptable to me.

    What would not be acceptable to me is a Search that forces me to wade through dozens of results for Channels I Don't Get and Channels I Don't Want in order to see the few desired results. And of course, like everyone else, I'm expecting there to be no arbitrary limit on Season Passes.
     
  13. tonyd79

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    Oops. Guess you haven't seen the new Tivo Search that searches the internet as well as channels you get. Want Amazon on that? How about You Tube?
     
  14. Steve

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    I'm not a TiVo Premier fan, but in all fairness, if you check out #10 here, it appears you can configure what outside content sources you want included in search results.
     
  15. Doug Brott

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    I think even YOU can agree that HR2x software does not equal TiVo software. This is the point Stuart was making .. Let's not go down the path of talking about the HR2x (a.k.a. DIRECTV) software here. This is not the place for that and has been rehashed over and over (yes, that is a redundant statement).

    Yes, it is TiVo's responsibility to create the software .. As for managing expectations. Are you serious?

    Right now people expected the TiVo Premier to be the best TiVo ever .. It comes out and even the most devoted TiVo fans are panning it. The expected awesome and got a lump of coal.

    The DIRECTV TiVo was expected in late 2009 .. At a MINIMUM, it was expected to be shown @ CES2010 .. :shrug: not there. There always seems to be a consistent "in 6 months" mantra now. I've heard mid 2010, I've heard late 2010 and what some of us (skeptical at the point) folks are saying is early 2011.

    One thing TiVo is doing is extending their reputation for setting the wrong expectations. If you call lying about everything "managing exceptions" then maybe, but they are not even close when it comes to product announcements. I think over the years they have done an exceptionally BAD job at managing expectations.
     
  16. tonyd79

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    Not configurable in the Tivo Search version (it was beta, of course) on the Tivo HD. I am not talking about demoware, but what I have actually used on my Tivo.

    And, of course, with both the HD and the Premiere, you have to wade through ads in everything and ignore a bunch of pictures along the top that you don't care about.

    Sorry, I just get worked up when Tivo fans say their world will be perfect with Tivo. Far from it.
     
  17. Steve

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    I hear ya. Folks complain about the HR "50 limit" which can be worked-around. What will the TiVo work-arounds be for no (Premiere) 30SKIP and ad pop-ups during FF's? If both those are the case on the new DirecTiVo, they'll be much more annoying, because they'll be in my face every time I play back a recording.
     
  18. tonyd79

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    Don't get me wrong. I don't mind my HD Tivo. Far better than the cable box it replaced. But I prefer my HR2x's for just about everything. It is just the denial that Tivo is not the end all that gets me. It is a good box and preferences are preferences. But how anyone can claim Tivo will be their savior with DirecTV when Tivo is no longer Tivo and has been underdelivering for years.
     
  19. David MacLeod

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    I would not be surprised to see this canceled.
    I would be more surprised to see it come to fruition.
     
  20. Syzygy

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    Steve, you introduced me and others to the combo-keyword-autorecord workaround for the 50-SL limit, and I'm happy to have some way around the limit... But still, no one can be happy with the resulting problems: Groups in the Playlist that make little sense, with headings whose last keyword is invisible, and no good way to ungroup the shows; all reruns getting recorded even though you specify FRO — a bug that appeared last September and seems to be here to stay.

    These irritations, coupled with the well-documented search problems, are much more annoying to me than the Premiere's ad pop-ups during Pause and FF would be if they showed up on the new DirecTiVo. And I'm confident that there will be a TiVo Premiere workaround equivalent to Select-Play-Select-3-0-Select or 30SKIP.
     
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