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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q1 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Mike Bertelson, Dec 28, 2010.

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  1. Jan 26, 2011 #661 of 1101
    Mike Bertelson

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    14TB, Great Googly Moogly! :eek2:

    That’s potentially thousands of hours of MPEG-4 HD. Just keeping track of it all seems a bit daunting.

    I kinda suspect that’s a bit beyond what the average subscriber is doing. :grin:

    That’s a lotta TV to watch. :D

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  2. Jan 26, 2011 #662 of 1101
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    Don't want to be antagonistic but, lately, this thread is wasted. I haven't seen any item on either side of the question that hasn't been 'beaten to death' before (if not 100 times). While I was once a TIVO fanatic, TIVO's problems were self inflicted. While they might improve some things, I have NO interest in an HR10 that will record MPEG4.

    If you are going to advocate a TIVO box, it must be in light of today's environment - not where things were 3 - 4 years ago. Many of the items on the wish lists would be nice additions to either box (TIVO or HRxx), but there doesn't appear to be much hope that they will be part of the next Direct TIVO (by TIVO's statements about radical changes).

    We are in a different world today. Let's move on and quit trying to resurrect the past. Just my opinion.
     
  3. Jan 26, 2011 #663 of 1101
    tonyd79

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    I had bad recordings on my HD Tivo. Haven't had one in so long with my DirecTV DVRs that was not signal related since I had my HD Tivo.

    Never had this happen to me. Sorry if it did to you. Assuming it happened to me is showing bias.
    My HD Tivo would boot itself about twice a week without me forcing it. Which is better?
    Never, never, never have I done one of these on three DVRs used for a few years now. Whacha talking about?

    Since I don't care, why would I assume Tivo was better on this? BTW, with true MRV, I have a series limit of 150 in my house.

    I got this on Tivo as well. That is guide data based.

    Anyone who does not check their DVR, Tivo or not, is a fool. I checked my Tivos all the time and had to force things with them.
    I don't use them. There is a simple workaround for everyone I want to use. Skip to tick works better on the HRs. Mine have NEVER engaged when I don't want them to. User problem.
    Tivo searching is HORRIBLE. If anything, DirecTV's has been heading TOWAD the horrible TIVO searching. Of course, since you haven't used Tivo search since an HR10, I believe, you have no idea how slow and balky it is and what crap it returns.
     
  4. Jan 26, 2011 #664 of 1101
    Mike Bertelson

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    I actually am a computer geek. This year is the first time in twenty five years I haven't had a home built PC in the house. I custom wired my house data and even had a mini optical fiber network for a few months (weird experiment for work).

    I’ve even worked a few years in IT but I must be missing something on the “4mb of RAM or bigger than a 50MB hard drive” thing as it applies to DVRs. :confused:

    Mike
     
  5. Jan 26, 2011 #665 of 1101
    tonyd79

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    I see a lot on your list are not even available with Tivo today. But somehow you think Tivo might add them to a DirecTivo.

    I guess we all need dreamers in my life....wait, I don't. ;)

    And what the heck is the boot up time issue? I can wait a minute or two for something that happens about twice a month, and normally forced by me during a software upgrade on a CE.
     
  6. Jan 26, 2011 #666 of 1101
    hdtvfan0001

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    I suspect 1TB suffices to meet the "needs" for an "average user".

    Based on the information on the HR34, for example...the DirecTV profile of an "average" DVR user is one DVR with "up to 4 additional viewing rooms".

    In that environment, 200+ hours of MPEG4 recordings is likely more than what that "average" user will retain at any given time.

    While a number of us at DBSTalk may perhaps fall into something similar to a "packrat" category when it comes to storing content...mainstream users are another breed, and 1TB will be more than sufficient for the largest population of DVR users.

    The new TiVobox is also rumored to use a 1TB drive.
     
  7. Jan 26, 2011 #667 of 1101
    kymikes

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    You are far too young. My first PC had 128 KB and 2 5 1/4 floppies and I caught all kind of grief from my geek friends for wasting money because anyone who couldn't contain their software in 64 KB was just lazy and incompetent. I was also around to hear the discussions about memory usage above the 640K boundary because no one would ever need that much (Bill Gates). It is a very different world (as I just added a 2 TB esata drive to my HR21). :D:D:D
     
  8. Jan 26, 2011 #668 of 1101
    Richierich

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    I have 3 DVRs Backing Up the other 4 DVRs but I like to keep recordings and a lot of people who have kids keep their kids stuff because they watch them over and over again. Ask any father how many times their children have seen Shrek 3 or Lion King.

    Yes but more and more customers are getting into the DVR Time Shifting Thing because of longer hours at work so they can watch what they want to watch when and where they want to watch it.

    I would love to see the statistics for the last 5 years on how many customers have shifted from receivers to DVRs.
     
  9. Jan 26, 2011 #669 of 1101
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    And at what point did I say the TIVO's do this now???? I said what I would like to see IMPROVED from the HR's. You don't have to be so defensive just because someone doesn't agree that the HR's are perfect little DVRs that don't need anymore features added to it.

    PS the boot times are in 10's of minutes not a couple. Last time I timed it it took 21 minutes to get to a live picture for my HR22-100. That was a reboot, not a software download.
     
  10. Jan 26, 2011 #670 of 1101
    hdtvfan0001

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    According to the financial reports they've done in recent months...I believe they stated "about 40%" of customers had a DVR...but no stats on how many had more than one. I would suspect most of the 40%, however, fall into the 1 DVR category....making users with 3,4,5 or more a minuscule percent of the user base.

    Put more "diplomatically"...those folks with more than 4 DVRs...yeah...you're user freaks of nature.... !rolling.

    Assuming the rumors are true about 1TB of storage in the (some day it might actually arrive) new TiVobox...that will likely be quite sufficient for most users.
     
  11. Jan 26, 2011 #671 of 1101
    Stuart Sweet

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    I have heard several times that the new device will be nothing more than an MPEG4-ified HR10. That would seem to imply that most of the items on your list, if not all, will not happen. It should be interesting.
     
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    I don't expect most of it to happen, but its still my wishlist!!
     
  13. Jan 26, 2011 #673 of 1101
    Richierich

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    I guess so but I bet that will increase dramatically with time as the newer generations raised on electronic toys will want more and more saved content.

    Yes I know that Rich584 and me along with Tom Robertson are in the very very tiny minority of customers but somebody has to be King!!! Someone has to lead the Parade!!! :lol:
     
  14. Jan 26, 2011 #674 of 1101
    Richierich

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    And a Very Nicely Compiled Wishlist I might add. :)
     
  15. Jan 26, 2011 #675 of 1101
    hdtvfan0001

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    My understanding is that every new HD TiVo DVR will include one of these...

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  16. Jan 26, 2011 #676 of 1101
    bonscott87

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    Something wrong with your box then, perhaps get it replaced? Never took more then 5 minutes, if that, to reboot either my HR20 or HR21 back to live tv.
     
  17. Jan 26, 2011 #677 of 1101
    Scott Kocourek

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    Back a few years ago I had a HR22-100 that had a HMDI issue with my Sony TV that would sometimes reboot on its own upon power up, 9 minutes to live tv. Issue has long been fixed.

    The last TiVo units I had rebooted a couple of times a day, every day. Some folks here only remember what they like, I loved my TiVo and now with all of the features of the HR series I will likely never own another TiVo.
     
  18. Jan 26, 2011 #678 of 1101
    Mike Bertelson

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    Wow, that's a long time. My HR21-100 takes ≤ that with a software download. It should be less than half of that.

    Mike
     
  19. Jan 26, 2011 #679 of 1101
    hdtvfan0001

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    By the way...I got one of those with the HR10-250 I had years ago too... ;)

    Exact same shirt... :D

    One's enough for me, thank you.
     
  20. Jan 26, 2011 #680 of 1101
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    I needed one of those for my HR24/H24 experience. Based on this thread and the one at TCF I really expected them to be much more than they really turned out to be.

    Now don't get your feathers ruffled, I am not saying they are bad, but they aren't what the DirecTV fan boys made them out to be either.

    I am dissappointed that Media share doesn't work as people and DirecTV implied. I am dissappointed that Media share doesn't get web video content I desire, but IFC picking up Onion News eliminated my biggest complaint in that area. And I may be less dissappointed when Nomad comes, assuming it won't add to my monthly bill. So things are headed in the right direction, but currently it is still disappointing to me.
     
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