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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q2 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Mar 22, 2010.

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  1. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    That's like trying to get someone to tell you why one beer is better than another....and a fight may ensue. :lol:

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  2. tonyd79

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    Not gonna "argue" over the things you like or dislike, just gonna add a few facts as I experienced them.

    The only standalone Tivo I had was an HD Tivo and it took much longer to reboot than my HR2x's which don't take very long when you are not upgrading software. I have had power hits on HR2x's and the HD Tivo side by side and I never timed any of them but the Tivo took longer. I have a feeling that the more software, the longer the Tivo takes to boot.

    The last comment, Tivo2go, wound up being pretty useless for me. Tivo passes on the braindead do not copy bit as set by the provider. Comcast (illegally, btw) here set it for everything so I could not copy any programs to my PC. Reports on this are all over tivocommunity. You can get the cable company to fix it but they come back over and over again. Not known what would happen with DirecTV....the could mess it up too even if they allow the feature to exist.
     
  3. Doug Brott

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    Today, the answer is easy .. Nothing. You cannot get a TiVo that will display MPEG-4 HD. Once it's available, then the feature debate can commence.
     
  4. Syzygy

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    Some annoyances with my HR10:

    • No (R) icons on programs in lists or in the Guide
    • No one-touch record
    • No one-touch keep
    • No bookmarks
    • No triple-tap text entry
    • Tortuous path to toggle CC
    • Can't get to a list of upcoming showings from a program in Now Playing

    I wonder how many of these annoyances don't exist with the TiVo Premiere? (I've seen that it does have an available-space meter.)
     
  5. fornold

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    TIVO issued their earnings yesterday. The CEO said this in response to a question:

     
  6. Lee L

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    If this is aggressive, I would hate to see when they have a project on the back burner.
     
  7. H8tank

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    It is somewhat surprising to have so many people sniping the Tivo unit who hate the tivo in a Tivo thread? If you have nothing to offer why in the world are you posting in this thread?

    I have to have Directv for the NFL ticket. I tried the Dtv DVR, and after they had to replace the 3rd defective unit, I said you can keep it, and bought my own Tivo box and upgraded the HD.

    The Hr24 may have solved all the problems the earlier units had, but I hated the Dtv DVR boxes, with clunky menu's, slow and the real killer? No dual live buffers.

    I abhor commercials, and I like to pause the channel, and switch to the other tuner while watching games, or just lazy surfing. This practice was impossible with the Dtv DVR boxes.

    I am pretty tired of watching SD on my 52" LCD, and I will have HD before the NFL season kicks off. It appears the tivo won't be here, so I am stuck with trying the HR24 box.

    Really sucks that Dtv won't confirm a HR24 and you have to buy one somewhere else but STILL lease it... but change is inevitable, adapt or die.
     
  8. sigma1914

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    In case you're not aware...HR2x have DLB now.
     
  9. H8tank

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    I was really hoping they did, is it always on and seemless like the Tivo is or do you have to engage it like I read you could do on the old ones?

    If it works like the Tivo, then I will get an HR24 now.

    Will I need a new dish or wiring?
     
  10. sigma1914

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    Have to press down 2x to start.
     
  11. Lee L

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    I know there are others who genuinely hate TiVo posting here, but as I have mentioned in the rest of the thread, I was (and still am, just with no tiVo boxes) a big TiVo fan. The reason I signed up for DirecTV in the first place was to get the TiVo HR10-250 when it was the first HD DVR. I preordered one about a year ahead of time and was one of the first couple of hundred people to get one.

    I really missed the HD DirecTiVo when I switched to the HR20s and continued to wish for nothing other than a MPEG4 capable DirecTiVo for some time. There are still a couple of things I miss about TiVo, but DirecTV has defnitely improved their DVRs by a long ways. I would love for TiVo to have a new HD DirecTiVo and be able to choose between what I have now and the new box, but after all the years of promises and missed dates, I have to say I am skeptical.
     
  12. bonscott87

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    The HR2x boxes have had DLB for a long time now. Just press down twice and it's activated. Works just like Tivo after that (and actually better in many ways, check the old DLB threads for details on features).

    All the HR2x boxes including the HR24 have the same software and UI. The HR24 is just faster since it has newer/faster chips. Only way to be sure of an HR24 is to get one at retail *or* do an MRV/DECA upgrade.

    You'll need a new dish to get the new sats at 99 and 103 if you already haven't upgraded it in the past couple years. The upgrade to the dish and switch (if you need one) is free.
     
  13. mccoady

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    Exactly I've never figured this out why would you post here if you weren't sincerely interested in the progress of the new HD DTivo, it seems this thread is more of a platform for some to attack Tivo fans or try to convert/convince them that the HRxx's can do this or that better. The Gui/features are different enough I don't know why it would be surprising that each would have it's supporters.

    I'm just hoping a new HD DTivo does happen so at that point in time I can at least compare the features (and added fee) to the HR24 and then make a decision that's best for. If a new DTivo doesn't appear by Xmas likely I'll replace my sd DTivo with an HR24 and move on.
     
  14. Earl Bonovich

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    Not piping in on the topic of TiVo itself, but the question of why others view this thread.

    In the history of this topic, many times... when a user has posted "I love TiVo for feature X", it has often been then pointed out how to do the exact (or very similar) thing with the HR2* platform.

    Just like a few posts ago, with the Double Play / DLB.
     
  15. Syzygy

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    Much more often, Earl, fanboys respond to "I miss my TiVo" posts with things like "I hate TiVo for its simple, too-friendly interface," or "TiVo takes too long to process Season Pass Manager updates."

    A helpful response is rare, at least from the fanboys.
     
  16. judson_west

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    The reason I signed up for DirecTV, in 1997, was because the receivers needed to connect to them were independent of DirecTV (you could get them from DirecTV also). You could get a Sony, Phillips, Panasonic, etc box and connect it to DirecTV. You could in effect choose your interface. When Sony came out with the SAT-T60 DirecTV DVR w/TiVo in 2000, I jumped on it and began replacing all of the receivers I had with them. Later, the HR10-250 came out but because the introductory price was $1000, I passed. It later became affordable for me to upgrade to it. I have owned HR20's for over 3 years and have, for the most part, been happy with them. I just bought/leased a HR24 and am very happy I have a black box in my living room. I think the HR series can keep up with the best of them (feature-wise), but I do miss the simplicity of the TiVo interface.
     
  17. balboadave

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    OK. I have over 300 season passes and wishlists on my 2 R10s. As I'm generally housebound, I'm able to keep up with all of them too. What can the HR2* platform do to match that?
     
  18. sigma1914

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    Then, the immature name calling starts from posters with obvious agendas. :rolleyes:
     
  19. sigma1914

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    Get 6 HRs. You asked.
     
  20. Earl Bonovich

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    Obviously you already know the answer to the question, or you wouldn't be asking it using the wording that you did.

    And if that is the KEY important piece of a DVR experience to you, then the choice path is clear. So for you, the HR2* platform won't help, if you want just two systems.
     
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