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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q2 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 16, 2011.

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  1. Apr 6, 2011 #61 of 879
    tonyd79

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    A bit of a red herring. Tivo has a portion of the disk they use as well. Where do you think they load commercials (called showcases)?
     
  2. Apr 6, 2011 #62 of 879
    Mike Bertelson

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    I'm completely guessing there but since Suggestions is a TiVo staple I would think it's in there...of course I've been wrong before. :grin:

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  4. Apr 6, 2011 #64 of 879
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    When I had my HR10-250, I had auto suggestions on, but auto record off. I would go through and triple thumb up everything I liked and triple thumb down everything I didn't. I did that for a month and it NEVER got more accurate.
     
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    jacmyoung

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    I was responding to Stuart's comment about a delay from the initial availability to general availability. I was not asking about a delay from vaporware to general availability.
     
  6. Apr 6, 2011 #66 of 879
    Doug Brott

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    It's all speculation .. GA could be immediate as I indicated earlier. All depends on the distribution mechanism. If a supply chain needs to be filled, it could take a bit longer, but this is a process issue and also happens with other DIRECTV receivers. All I know is that it won't start until there is a final :up: from DIRECTV. Once the qualification is complete it could be the next day when it's available or it could be down the road a bit. I really don't know.

    The bottom line is that whatever that time frame is, the expectation is no different now than when the agreement was first signed. This (potential) "delay" was already built into the original estimate .. or at least is should have been.
     
  7. Apr 6, 2011 #67 of 879
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    What about the previous generations of DirecTiVos in this regard, were there any delays after qualifications?
     
  8. Apr 6, 2011 #68 of 879
    Doug Brott

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    You mean in 2004 (HR10-250)? or 2000 (SAT-T60)? I have no idea, but that was 7+ years ago. Plus it originally started as TiVo doing the marketing (in 2000) then DIRECTV took over later in the cycle. I don't think you can even remotely make a correlation.
     
  9. Apr 6, 2011 #69 of 879
    Stuart Sweet

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    And I would look at TiVo's experience rolling out their Comcast and Virgin devices. Not exactly stellar performance.
     
  10. Apr 6, 2011 #70 of 879
    Doug Brott

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    Since DIRECTV is doing the marketing and distribution, the best you can do is look at the recent DVRs .. HR24. But those are generally brought to you by an installer when you order from DIRECTV. Will the TiVo be the same? I don't know :shrug:
     
  11. Apr 6, 2011 #71 of 879
    jacmyoung

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    If I recall correctly DirecTiVos took off in 2006, presumably after DirecTV took over the marketing, and it just so happened it was around the time TiVo won the case against E*:). Since DirecTV will do the marketing this time, one could say the new DirecTiVo will be in good hands, if history is any indication.

    That is of course if DirecTV is as enthusiastic about TiVo now as in 2006, which by consensus the answer seems to be negative this time around.
     
  12. Apr 6, 2011 #72 of 879
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    Not really. Showcases are 10 minutes, maybe 20 of video. Not one or more two hour HD movies.
     
  13. Apr 6, 2011 #73 of 879
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    Comcast was a failure. Virgin looks like a success to me. No delays, people love it.
     
  14. Apr 6, 2011 #74 of 879
    Stuart Sweet

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    Certainly Virgin is much better but didn't the box initially ship without one of the tuners being turned on or something?
     
  15. Apr 6, 2011 #75 of 879
    Stuart Sweet

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    Yes, DIRECTV was extraordinarily enthusiastic about TiVo during the six or so months when their own HD DVR was running late. I wouldn't read much into that.
     
  16. Apr 6, 2011 #76 of 879
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    Yes, but it was announced that way. And it was turned on within two months of launch. There are some other nits that can certainly be picked, but nothing that rises to the level you are implying.
     
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    DIRECTV was pushing it "when their own HD DVR was running late" is reading something into it. There are always reasons why one company is enthusastic about a product.

    One thing has been demonstrated, whether DirecTV, TiVo or some other guy, if they are enthusiastic about the product they can deliver. However if it is a partnership of two, it takes these two to tango. There is almost no reason left for DirecTV to be motivated about this product.
     
  18. Apr 6, 2011 #78 of 879
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    You do realize that DIRECTV's enthusiasm peaked when they signed the non-litigation extension in September 2008. They entered into a win-win situation (in the grand scheme of things). It doesn't really matter (to DIRECTV) if the DIRECTV TiVo sees the light of day or not .. If it does, great, if it doesn't, great.
     
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    Didn't they have a similar non-litigation agreement before that, but they were enthusiastic, for once, back then in 2006? In 2007 DirecTV bought ReplayTV, from that time on any litigation risk from TiVo had been already minimized if not entirely removed.

    I wouldn't say DirecTV's enthusiasm peaked in 9/08, in 2006 maybe, but not in 9/08. I don't think DirecTV was ever enthusaistic about the new DirecTiVo when they signed the new agreement in 9/08. Again it takes two to tango.
     
  20. Apr 6, 2011 #80 of 879
    Doug Brott

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    The agreement was extended to basically the life of the Patents .. prior to the 2008 agreement, that wasn't the case.

    As for their "peaked" enthusiasm, I was speaking specifically about the new DIRECTV TiVo - which was in response to your comment talking about "the product they can deliver." Why bring 2006 into this?

    As for "two to tango" .. Wow. DIRECTV wanted to extend the non-litigation agreement .. That happened. DIRECTV won at that point. Again, regardless of whether or not the actual product makes it to the market. Heck, it sounds like you and I are in a Tango now as this conversation seems to be getting quite circular.
     
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