Folks, there's precious little to say about the upcoming DIRECTV TiVo-based device that hasn't already been said, but here's the thread for you to say it. Ground Rules: This is not a free-for-all. Rudeness will not be tolerated. If you harp on a particular point to the exclusion of others, your posts may be deleted. Synopsis of common arguments: (in other words, this ground's already been trodden, do we have to go there again?) Many people like the TiVo interface, especially the list guide. Many people are equally fond of the DIRECTV interface. Many people think that TiVos are easier for them to use. Many people think that DIRECTV DVRs are easier for them to use. Standalone TiVo devices have many features that are appealing to people. No guarantee has been made that any feature from a standalone TiVo will make it to the DIRECTV TiVo. The new device will run on DIRECTV hardware, although we don't know how that will work (we have some ideas). TiVo, Inc. will develop the software for the device and seems to be solely responsible for the user experience. Further, we've learned that the new TiVo for DIRECTV will not have the upgraded user experience seen in the TiVo Premiere, and since the DIRECTV HR24-500 DVR has been released, there has been some question as to what DIRECTV platform will underpin the new TiVo.