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DIRECTV HD Receiver with TiVo (Official Q4 2010 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 20, 2010.

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  1. Oct 2, 2010 #21 of 683
    Rich

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    Great minds... :lol:

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  2. Oct 2, 2010 #22 of 683
    harsh

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    The early press releases said that TiVo was working on software for the "DIRECTV's broadband-enabled HD DVR platform" and that it would "support the latest TiVo and DIRECTV features and services".

    In TiVo's Q2 2011 earnings call (August 25, 2010), Mr. Rogers said that TiVo was porting their platform to a Technicolor (-100) box. [strike]Since Technicolor hasn't delivered an HR24,[/strike] maybe they will produce all of the DIRECTiVo boxes. This may be a blow to those hoping for backwards compatibility.
     
  3. Oct 2, 2010 #23 of 683
    Steve

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    So I guess I should stop using my HR24-100? :)

    That aside, in the last thread, codespy unearthed a "THR22-100", which leads me to speculate it will be based on the HR22.
     
  4. Oct 2, 2010 #24 of 683
    harsh

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    Sorry about that. The date I misread was March and not September as I thought.
     
  5. Oct 2, 2010 #25 of 683
    Steve

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    No matter, really, if it turns out it will be based on the HR22. It could happen, because (a) the TiVO HD was based on that same chipset and (b) the HR22 supports MRV, if they choose to include it.
     
  6. Oct 2, 2010 #26 of 683
    harsh

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    It seems like it shouldn't have taken two years to adapt something for the same chipset given that DIRECTV has already done all the heavy lifting of dealing with the unique issues (WHDS, tuner and authorization control) that they bring to the party.

    Maybe the CIG issues with DIRECTV guide data are really that difficult. ;)
     
  7. Oct 2, 2010 #27 of 683
    hdtvfan0001

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    :rolleyes:

    That likely has NOTHING to do with the delay.

    CIG is very small minnow in Ocean pond.
     
  8. Oct 2, 2010 #28 of 683
    Steve

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    For sure. Had TiVO begun a port to the HR20 or HR21 in the fall of 2008, right after the 9/08 announcement, and delivered an MPEG-4 HR10 by mid 2009, they probably would have conservatively retained 1,000,000 DirecTiVO subs, if not more. Instead, some of those folks left DirecTV, and others switched to the HR2x.

    All "Could'a, would'a, should'a..." now.
     
  9. Oct 2, 2010 #29 of 683
    harsh

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    Do you have a better explanation?

    Obviously, if DIRECTV or TiVo made a monumentally stupid design decision that this machine would have to overcome, that would explain the delay but that doesn't seem entirely likely either.

    Maybe TiVo just wasn't devoting any resources to the project for a long time.
     
  10. Oct 2, 2010 #30 of 683
    Mike Bertelson

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    What is the basis behind believing CIG is the holdup?

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  11. Oct 2, 2010 #31 of 683
    hdtvfan0001

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    Tivo has already proven it takes longer than planned on multiple development projects. The Comcast commitment to delivery time was over a year late.

    There's no reason to think anything but this is another example of Tivo failing to deliver on time - its not unique in this case.
     
  12. Oct 2, 2010 #32 of 683
    joshjr

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    Thats it right there for me. I want to see how it gets reviewed and then cost is a big issue. Are there going to be alot of people willing to pay $300-$1000 and it be a leased unit? I know I wont. Will they offer it as an owned unit? Will D* have replacements of the TiVO if it fails and you have the PP or will your $300-$1000 be down the drain? Those all make a big difference on if people are gonna go with the TiVo name just because its a freaking TiVo.
     
  13. Oct 2, 2010 #33 of 683
    harsh

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    Given the similarity of the platforms in this case, it wouldn't seem to be nearly the departure that a Cisco or Motorola box would be.
     
  14. Oct 2, 2010 #34 of 683
    Rich

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    Betcha Mike Greer will run out and buy three of them!!! :lol:

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  15. Oct 2, 2010 #35 of 683
    harsh

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    A accurate CIG is imperative to the proper function of a modern TiVo enabled device. CIG is a problem that DIRECTV doesn't seem to have an definitive answer for after many years of poking at it.
     
  16. Oct 2, 2010 #36 of 683
    bonscott87

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    Yea, but you're giving Tivo too much credit here for actually knowing what they are doing. It's pretty obvious over the past 4-5 years that they don't know what they are doing anymore and mismanage every project they work on.

    Comcast Tivo 2 yrs late and *still* not rolled out other then beta markets.
    Cox Tivo is what...3 yrs late now and still not seen anywhere.
    Tivo Premier was released half backed and they aren't moving very quickly to fix or update the whole UI.
    And of course DirecTivo is late by at least a year now.

    Tivo just doesn't have it anymore. Maybe bad programming or just bad project managers. But either way they lost it a long time ago.
     
  17. Oct 2, 2010 #37 of 683
    sigma1914

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    I thought CIG was fixed?
     
  18. Oct 2, 2010 #38 of 683
    litzdog911

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    Yep, it's pretty close on my equipment now. Just a couple of "errors".
     
  19. Oct 2, 2010 #39 of 683
    bonscott87

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    And to claim that Tivo had CIG all solved is laughable. Man, how many times was I removing channels in my custom favorites list because Tivo felt I "needed" to see them. LOL.
     
  20. Oct 2, 2010 #40 of 683
    harsh

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    TiVo had the software largely done for the chipset. DIRECTV was to supply most of the DIRECTV peculiar stuff.

    What's left? Making sure that TiVo2Go doesn't work?
     
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