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DIRECTV HD TiVo (THR22-100) Anticipation (Official Q311 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 26, 2011.

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  1. Aug 29, 2011 #741 of 1071

    EricRobins Godfather

    Feb 9, 2005
    At the risk of enraging the wrath of tens of TiVo lovers (myself being one until my HR10 was replaced), can someone please explain what advantage this new DTiVo will have over my HR20 or HR24?

    If its the old TiVo interface (even upgraded to HD), BFD!

    And a higher price?

    I must be missing something.
  2. Aug 29, 2011 #742 of 1071

    chapel Cool Member

    Aug 26, 2011
    what 'other features' of the DVR+?
    all I want is to be able to record two shows at once and watch one recorded show (or record two shows at once and watch one of them while it's recording)
    which I can do with my current HR22 and I could do with my previous DirecTiVos
  3. Aug 29, 2011 #743 of 1071

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    While I certainly wouldn't go so far as to call the HR22 platform a "POS" (I have two here that work OK :)), even if true if you were in DIRECTV's shoes ... well... wouldn't you? ;)

    I mean this points to the crux of one of TIVO's central problems as a business. They have to work with service providers, CATV or satellite, who are trying to market their own boxes. And thereby have no real great interest or incentive beyond mere rhetoric to help TIVO produce a box which is truly competitive if not superior to their own.
  4. Aug 29, 2011 #744 of 1071

    eswalker Cool Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    I have three HR24's. At any point in time, they all experience all around slow performance. I have an HR24-500 that seems possessed. Entering channels on the remote is a crap shoot. You never know what you are going to get. Before everyone starts complaining that I'm having system problems, I have an HR20-100 that is rock solid. Over the last several software updates, my receivers have gotten slower. Some of you who have not experienced these kinds of issues are lucky.
  5. Aug 29, 2011 #745 of 1071
    Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    This is not a thread about HR24s or whether or not the HR22 was a "POS." I will, however, say that the HR22 does have much of the same hardware as the TiVo Series 3 and that may have been a factor in choosing it.
  6. Aug 29, 2011 #746 of 1071

    ATARI Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2007
    That's pretty much it. You will get a peanut remote and no 50 series limit. But you will also not get MRV.

    For extreme TiVo fans only, IMHO.
  7. Aug 29, 2011 #747 of 1071

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    GREAT POST!!!!

    For TiVo FANS Only!!! :lol:
  8. Aug 29, 2011 #748 of 1071

    hotspace Cool Member

    May 24, 2006
    I guess it would kind of be like taking your home grown stuff with you to the dealer and asking if the dealer wouldn't mind peddling your stuff along with his. <-- make sense? And then, the dealer...being concerned with patents/legal problems...felt obligated, so he agreed.

    I'm that Tivo guy that you all know. I have "brand loyalty". I hate cable...or should I say I hate how I have this top of the line Tivo that does HD and everything but I only get maybe 20 channels exclusively dedicated to HD. It drives me insane. Insane enough that I'm considering this Direct Tivo as an option.
  9. Aug 29, 2011 #749 of 1071

    EntropyByDesign Cool Member

    Apr 24, 2010
    There doesn't appear to be any advantage. I'm a new Directv subscriber with an HR24-500. I was a Tivo user for several years before switching to Dish and then Directv. I can assure you that the HR24 has the same features as the Tivo I used. I simply don't see any reason to switch or pay extra for something that Directv already supplies.
  10. Aug 30, 2011 #750 of 1071

    ejjames Icon

    Oct 2, 2006
    The #1 most important reason. I will not have to teach my wife the directv system If you saw how my wife reacts to it, believe me, it's worth its weight n gold
  11. Aug 30, 2011 #751 of 1071

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    Searching for content is probably easier (though somewhat less sophisticated) and with suggestions, some of the content will likely find you.

    There's hope that CIG works and/or can be edited.

    There's probably also a hope (but it will likely be shattered) that the DIRECTiVo will allow "learning" of available OTA with the AM21(N); something DIRECTV thus far seems bound and determined to not implement in their in-house product.

    I'm sure many are hoping for a few other items on the HR2x wish list as well.
  12. Aug 30, 2011 #752 of 1071

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    Consumer DVRs use dedicated DVR chip sets with most of the non-housekeeping tasks (like PIP, scaling, graphics, text and decryption/decompression) done with minimal involvement of the RISC CPU. The CPU handles dispatching user input, scheduling and the housekeeping tasks associated with maintaining the guide and file system.

    I doubt the rumor you heard has much validity.
  13. Aug 30, 2011 #753 of 1071

    aziz Cool Member

    Oct 11, 2008
    Can it still be OWN-ed? Then, welcome to the hack-able units of OLD! :evilgrin:
  14. Aug 30, 2011 #754 of 1071

    ATARI Hall Of Fame

    May 10, 2007
    It will be leased and locked down.
  15. Aug 30, 2011 #755 of 1071

    hotspace Cool Member

    May 24, 2006
    Has there been a comparison between the best HD Directv receiver and Tivo? I'd be interested to see a side by side comparison to help make an educated decision.
  16. Aug 30, 2011 #756 of 1071
    Scott Kocourek

    Scott Kocourek Well-Known Member

    Jun 13, 2009
    I am sure there will be a side by side comparison done as soon as the new TiVo is available to us. Until then it would just be speculation.
  17. Aug 30, 2011 #757 of 1071

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Sorry for you guys that have significant others that can't deal with change. I've moved my wife from Tivo to DirecTV DVR to Windows Media Center and now to Uverse DVR with very little trouble. Just 5-10 minutes of "training" and she's all over it using it like we've had it for years. Should could care less what the UI is, so long as she can watch CSI in HD she is a happy camper. Maybe I'm lucky. :)
  18. Aug 30, 2011 #758 of 1071

    ChicagoBlue Godfather

    Apr 29, 2011
    TiVo has no one to blame but themselves for this product in terms of the lack of features. TiVo had the opportunity to build to the latest DTV spec but they chose not to, thus the lack of MRV and other features. And yes, you can bet there will be an extra charge for TiVo because TiVo will certainly charge a royalty fee to DTV that will be considerable (several dollars per at least).
  19. Aug 30, 2011 #759 of 1071

    CuriousMark Icon

    May 21, 2008
    The chipset in the premiere does indeed have two processor cores. Either could be used in exactly the ways you are describing. Currently only one of the two cores is enabled according to folks over at the TiVo Community Forums. So far all I have seen there is speculation as to why the second core was not enabled. So it is not a rumor, but it doesn't matter anyway.
  20. Aug 30, 2011 #760 of 1071

    Tubaman-Z Godfather

    Jul 30, 2007
    My wife deals with change just fine (I'm the one who likes the status quo). But as we have both a D*TiVo and an HR20 that we interact with daily the differences are constantly experienced. Within the past month she commented to me that she really preferred the D*TiVo interface.
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