DIRECTV HD TiVo (THR22-100) Anticipation (Official Q311 Thread)

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  1. SledgeHammer

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    The only real argument I've ever seen in any of these threads is that the Tivo can have more SLs. All the other arguments have been pretty much "I just like Tivo better" (without any reasons) or "my wife refuses to learn the new DVR, so we'll just stick with the 2 or 3 HD channels we have".

    While its a bit complicated to set up for the avg user, you can combine SLs on the HD-DVR and get around the SL limit.

    Aside from that argument, there isn't really much. The first HD-DVRs were awful, yes, but they have quickly matured to way surpass the Tivos.
     
  2. JBernardK

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    Tjhere is a pretty good list here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=164125

    Some of these are OBE, but many still remain.
     
  3. jameskelly

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    I just don't understand the reason for members to be so rude and obnoxious. It's just TV! I just don't get it.
     
  4. SledgeHammer

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    Nobody ever said the HD-DVRs are perfect, most just say it blown away the HR10-250 in almost every category. It is a well established fact, that you are going to get an HR10-250 + MPEG4 - built in OTA with this box.
     
  5. CuriousMark

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    Plus:

    • kidzone
    • support for active screens (color buttons on remote)
    • Cinema Plus, download from internet
    • Video On Demand
    • SWM capable
    • Free Space Indicator
    • HR22 like output modes over HDMI, (1080P24 anyone?)

    So that description is still a bit of an oversimplification. Comparisons agains the DirecTV HD DVRs are even more complicated, so that is why the HR10-250+MPEG4 description is easier to throw out. Most of the reason for that comparison is that the UI is still based on the SD UI HR10-250 users are familiar with.

    Somewhere back in one of these threads I did a comparison against the current standalone TiVo DVRs, and someone else did a comparison against the HR's. It is there to be dug up by anyone willing to spend a fair amount of effort searching for it.

    I am sure there are many that this box will appeal to just as there are many here who have to repeatedly say it won't appeal to them. Rather than just throwing out the opinioins, it is probably better to try to provide the best information we have and let the reader make up their own mind.
     
  6. Jeremy W

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    This thread is all about information and opinions. Everything you just posted has already been posted in this thread, just like "I don't care about this" has already been posted 1000 times before. It's just the nature of this beast.

    If you want to get away from the doubters, I'm sure TCF is still a very warm and fuzzy place for Tivo lovers.
     
  7. Tom Robertson

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    Thanks for posting what you and I think should be obvious. :)

    While TV is very important to some people, I still agree with everything you say. There isn't any need to be rude or obnoxious. We're all just regular (geek) folk reading, helping, and learning.

    Thanks,
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  8. wingrider01

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    thing about your comments is, with the exception of 1 item - Kidzone, none of the others are functions of the converted tivo software, they are normal built in functions of the hr22, nothing different then a directtv supplied unit. So other then the kidzone and the Windows 3.0 type GUI it brings nothing unique that makes it stand out.
     
  9. inkahauts

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    90% of his "issues" are his opinions on how a dvr should work instead of the way DirecTV programmed their DVR. That's part of the reason that Tivo coming back to DIrectv is a good thing IMHO. It gives consumers the choice between two different interfaces and thought processes for their DVRs to choose from. Unfortunately, because Tivo is so slow at programming a reliable box, the new tivo is going to be considered not simply another option, but a shorthanded option. I think that's the biggest problem. If it was at least on par with the DirecTV units in terms of major functions, like MRV, eSata, etc, then I think the unit in the eyes of many would be far more relevant.

    I personally don't like tivos, I feel they treat you like a 5 year old and don't allow for the most obvious shortcuts, and have zero reliability in recording sports, but that doesn't mean people can't have similar issues with the DIrectv DVRs, just read that post! To them I say I am glad Tivo will give you an alternative. I just wish the alternative had a few more features to make it less of a choice between functions and more of a choice between style, which this tivo will be majorly lacking for may people.
     
  10. CuriousMark

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    I was comparing hr 10-250 and was clear that other comparisons are available.
     
  11. bengalfreak

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    Zero reliability in recording sports? I dunno how you come up with that. I never missed a single sporting event in five years of Tivo ownership.

    I'm a, for the most part, very happy owner of four DirecTV HDDVR's. I feel they are vastly superior to the Tivo's in most respects. It would be nice if they had Netflix acess, but that's not gonna happen.

    What I really do not like about the HR-2x's is the guide. Tivo's guide is light years ahead and its format is ten years old. Why DirecTV cannot come up with something similar, I have no idea. Being able to show several hours of what's on the current channel, as well as what's on multiple channels at the current time just makes a great guide. I wish DirecTV would also give you the option of turning off the live video in the upper right corner of the guide in order to be able to show more entries too.
     
  12. bonscott87

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    I think he's referring to wishlists as noted a few pages back. I had the same issue, none of my several DirecTivo's would record sports reliably via wishlists and I resorted to using the wishlist as a "saved search" and manually chose to record the games. Many have the same experience.

    No problems at all with the HR2x series with the advanced autorecord search. Once they released that I set up a simple boolean search and it would record every game and pre-game show flawlessly.
     
  13. Laxguy

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    I know this 'solution' won't appeal to most, and some will be horrified, but the iPad app in conjunction with DirecTV is fabulous. You get the guide showing nine channels for 1, 2 or 3 hours. You use it and there's no corner window with the show (though I'd want a larger window when I am not using the iPad; about 50% larger). It now has a unified play list, and you can delete from the 'Pad. There's more to it, of course.
     
  14. Richierich

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  15. inkahauts

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    You cant set it up and walk away and expect it to record every game of your favorite team, every season, and only the live games, with no pre or post game shows, etc. You have to manually select each program in your guide to record it. Wish lists are terrible. You get one in five games, and about twice as much non game recordings as you do the games for some teams.

    On the contrary my arsls on my hr units where set up once, and haven't missed any game of any of my sports teams and continue to work great every season and never record pre and post games, because I don't want those. The hrs are perfect for recording sports, I'd be willing to say better than or at least equal to any other dvr ever made. Can't say that for TiVo.


    As for your guide issue, that's such a preference thing. I hate that tivo guide in general, but I can absolutely see why you like it. The hrs have something close, but not quite the same. Highlight a channel in the guide and hit info.... I am finding the iPad app though incredibly good because I can record to any dvr from it, where as I have to be in front of the dvr otherwise. It's fast becoming my favorite thing about the hrs.

    Oh and Turing off live video wouldn't get you more lines in the playlist. They still would use that space for the shows info. They need to be convinced that they can make the text slightly smaller and spaced differently to get more lines and hours in the guide.
     
  16. RMBittner

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    Darn it. . . September 25 has come and gone. . . and nothing on the DirecTV site suggests that the DirecTiVo is now available. So now I need a new date that I can pin my hopes to.:D

    Here's my completely uninformed, wishful-thinking, hope-springs-eternal statement: On October 9, 2011, the new HDTiVo will be released by DirecTV.

    Anyone else wanna play this game with me?;)

    Bob
     
  17. mkdtv21

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    Why do I have a feeling the HD gui will be released before the Tivo.
     
  18. tivoboy

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    Well, my H10-250 is starting to fail again, so the new d* directivo must be near.
     
  19. RMBittner

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    Hopefully Charles Manson won't be released before the TiVo...

    Bob
     
  20. I WANT MORE

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    :DUmmmmmm, HDGUI, Ummmmmmm.:D
     
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