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DirecTV interface performance / MIPS SoC limitations? Frame-buffer bottleneck?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by cypherx, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Mike Greer

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    That wasn't my experience... The HDGUI slowed all three of my HR24s down and caused odd things to happen. Most of those troubles are mostly fixed now but they are still not as fast as they were before the HDGUI.

    Better contrast and aesthetics - sure - but that was simple color changes - didn't need to screw-the-pooch for a color change!
     
  2. cypherx

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    Mike are your HR24's the problematic -500 version? I have HR24-200 and H24-200. I think the -200's feel faster to me than the -500's. not to mention in various issues threads it seems like the -500's are always plagued with problems. I like the Samsung made stuff. Just wish I could over clock it. The non DVR is pretty fast. Still feature incomplete though.
     
  3. P Smith

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    You can't judge by look of your 'car' if you don't know if the 'engine' changed too.
    We don't know what else changed in FW that time!
     
  4. Mike Greer

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    All three are -500. Really as far as problems go (other than I would like them to be as fast as Dish Network receivers) I have 1 that I have to restart once a week or after 10 days or so it will just stop responding for 3 or 4 minutes at a time.

    Occasionally I have a hiccup here or there but not too horrible. My bitch, as always, is that they need to instantly respond to the remote - I shouldn't be able to get ahead of the DVR by pushing buttons.

    Need-for-speed.
     
  5. Mike Greer

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    Of course - they could have made any number of changes that have nothing to do with the HDGUI but it was at that 'update' when things really got screwed.

    Again - they have more recently fixed most of the issues they added then but the speed has not returned to what it was the day before the 'upgrade'. It is 'tolerable' to me but not by much.
     
  6. Diana C

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    I remember that when the HD GUI was announced, it was promised to improve GUI performance and everyone cheered that prospect. So, the DVR GUI performance was complained about LONG before the HD GUI appeared.

    We have 2 H25-500s, 2 HR24s (a 100 and a 500), 2 HR21s (a 100 and a 700) and HR34. None of them any real have problems (I can't remember the last time we rebooted the HR2xs). The performance of the HR21s are sluggish, but only the one with an external 1TB drive gets really slow, and then only when the disk fills up. I personally move between one of the H25s, the 2 HR24s, and the HR34 without really noticing any big differences in performance.
     
  7. Rich

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    Yup, it's quick, but accuracy is lost in that speed. If I miss something and want to back up, it's an ordeal.

    That's what I was talking about. My Panny plasma has NF and it has the best NF interface I've seen so far. Trickplay is easy, but I can't get 5.1 sound with the TV.

    Haven't tried the new Apple TV, but I've read some reports on it and they weren't favorable. Roku is supposed to update it's older models to the same level as the new Rokus this month. I think I still have one laying around somewhere and if the update actually takes place I'd prefer to use that. I've got to replace a BD player that is integrated into a sound system. The BD player still works well, but doesn't have access to all the new features on NF.

    For that, I'd choose the Roku. 750 channels. Amazing.

    Rich
     
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    I'll agree with that wholeheartedly.

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  9. Rich

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    I've had them all and see little difference in the performance of the 3 models. The 200 was fine, the 100s are amazingly good (for a 100) and the 500s are just as good as the other 2 models. I've only got 500s and 100s. The 200 is difficult (nearly impossible) to put an internal HDD in and just about forces anyone that owns one to use an external device with it.

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  10. cypherx

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    A buddy of mine has an HR24-500 and it just seemed incredibly slow and laggy compared to my HR24-200. Granted that was months ago and he does not participate in any of the DirecTV exclusive software testing like me. Also a lot of the issues posts people complain about weird oddities with their -500 model. A lot of it has been disappearing AM21 channels, but there have been numerous other issues reported that people with -200's didn't experience (or report).

    But in terms of speed... My H24 runs circles around my HR24. Shame you can't just plug in a USB2.0 drive to an H24 and it automatically become a single tuner DVR to add to the MRV pool.
     
  11. Rich

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    I have six 500s and have no problems with them. I have a large MRV system and the 500s work well in that system. No complaints about the 500s here.

    Easily explained, I'm sure you know why.

    Dream on... :lol:
     
  12. lparsons21

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    The AppleTV is absolutely perfect in that it does exactly what it is designed to do. The few complaints are generally about what it doesn't do and how adding whatever the writer figures is important, would make it better.

    I'm a Mac person and fully into the Mac ecosystem, so an AppleTV is at least one part of the streaming puzzle. Gives me iTunes, and allows for sharing my iTunes library with it (can't do that with anything else I'm aware of). Also covers HuluPlus and Netflix with the best interface I've seen to them so far.

    But I I have to shift to the BluRay player if I want to use Amazon Prime, or use my DLNA server.

    Of course, with just a little bit more effort I could do all of it with just the AppleTV and MacBook Pro by using the Airplay function and mirroring whatever from the laptop to the ATV. That works very well, I just don't do it.
     
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    I agree with you, however, probably 700 of those 750 channels are useless.

    For a "Mac person" AppleTV is the obvious choice. In our household, while we have two iPhones and an iPad, we have 3 Windows PCs and a MacBook Pro that runs Windows as often as it runs Lion.

    We have a Roku XS that gives us access to Amazon, Netflix, Hulu+, Vudu (plus a host of other services) and can access anything else through PlayOn and a PC. We also have a Panasonic BD player that also covers Netflix, Hulu+, Amazon and Vudu. My daughter has a WD Live that covers all the major services and has a Slingbox client. Of all of them, I'd pick the Roku as the best all around streaming solution available.
     
  14. Mike Greer

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    Dish Network used to do that with one of their HD receivers! I don't see DirecTV ever ever ever doing that!
     
  15. Mike Greer

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    Absolutely! GUI performance since the release the HR20 - especially the HR21/22/23s has ALWAYS been slower than I would like (It is all about me!). I didn't come along until the HR22 personally...

    When the HR24 came out and I saw them in action I paid $600 to be rid of my boat-anchor ready HR22s. Life was pretty good until DirecTV granted the wish of the HDGUI. All three of my HR24-500s slowed way down and started having some of the same troubles I had with my HR22s. All in the name of essentially a color change called the HDGUI.

    It took maybe 6 or 7 months and a handful of updates to get my HR24-500s to where they are today. Mostly ok but slower than I'd like and still not as fast as they were when I spent $600 to get them.
     
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    Not to mention that once an H24 had to worry about scheduling recordings and resolving conflicts, being an MRV server, and managing a hard drive, it would probably slow down and be no faster than an HR24.
     
  17. swyman18

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    I just got the new Roku 3 and it is tremendous. I also just realized that with the Roku iPhone app, it has it's own version of "AirPlay" so to speak... I can stream my iTunes music stored on my phone directly to the Roku. I almost have no need for my AppleTV anymore. Which is kind of ironic considering I bought the AppleTV to replace a first generation Roku a couple of years ago.
     
  18. dishrich

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    They STILL very much do to this day, on their 211, 211k & 411 HD receivers; the 211k is still a currently made receiver...
     
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    I'm not averse to getting a Roku, but so far haven't figured out what it brings to the table for me. 750 channels is all well and good, but after looking at all those, the majority of which are non-supported, I couldn't find any I don't already have with my setup that I would want.

    I use Playon also, but only rarely as it only does 480p SD. I have to really, REALLY want to watch something to watch it in SD. Heck I'm even paying for HuluPlus so I can watch the teener targetting series on the CW! :)

    I also wanted to mention that when I was with DirecTV about 3 months ago, my 2 HR24-500s were working very good, but they were very slow especially compared to the 2 Hoppers I have from Dish. D* really has no real excuse for the sluggishness that is pervasive across the HR line, imo.
     
  20. Mike Greer

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    That's cool - I wasn't sure if they still did it or not. DirecTV needs to steal some engineers!:D

    I put some serious cash on the 211k with a hard drive still being twice as fast as any DirecTV HD DVR.:eek2:
     

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