DirecTV losses continue

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by raott, Jul 25, 2019.

  1. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    I highly doubt 4K would increase the ratings for any channel. People aren't going to watch a game because it is in 4K.
     
  2. compnurd

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    They may the first couple lol
     
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  3. mjwagner

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    It’s already there on that ATV 4k. I watched the Woman’s World Cup in 4k on the Fox Sports app on my ATV 4k using PSVue as my provider. Quality was excellent.
     
  4. mjwagner

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    I would never have watched any of the Woman’s World Cup. Except it was in 4k using the Fox Sports app on my ATV 4k using PSVue as my provider. The video quality was excellent.
     
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  5. James Long

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    I watched a few hockey games just to see a HD picture. The novelty wore off. (I am not a hockey fan.)
    I assume the novelty of 4K will wear off and the content will become the more important deciding factor as to whether people keep watching.
     
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  6. AngryManMLS

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    DOH! You are right I completely forgot the Fox Sports app on Apple TV 4K has 4K streaming on it.
     
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  7. n3vino

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    Extra receivers are $7.00 for receiver plus $10.00 advanced receiver fee equals $17.00 per HD receiver or HDVR. Ridiculous.
     
  8. n3vino

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    Over the air sorta sucks. You get lots of channels, but you only get HD on the prime channel, six of them that I would watch. Their sub channels are all SD. Then there are the shopping channels, Spanish stations, and religious stations. I almost went for that but the trees prevented a strong enough signal to include an over the air DVR. So I'll stay with D* until something better comes along. I did cut my bill by returning an unused HD25. I thought it was only $7.00 until I questioned the charges. Turns out I cut $17.00 from my bill. Had I known that sooner, I would have returned it a long time ago. That was my bad.
     
  9. TDK1044

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    I've been with D* for over twenty years and I've been happy with them. The occasional customer service issue, but you'd get that with any provider. In overall terms, they've done a good job. If AT&T offer a streamed OTT service that gives me the channels that I want, I'll happily take that at a lower price than I'm paying now once they've ironed the bugs out of it. We live in an era where conventional television and streaming based television are merging, and different demographics have different needs. Trying to create a platform that satisfies all of those needs is a nightmare for all of the providers.
     
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  10. mjwagner

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    IMHO a “per receiver” or per tv monthly fee is really outdated. Most OTT services use a simultaneous stream limit which makes more sense and more closely fits with current technology. A per receiver or per tv monthly fee made sense when people had 1 or maybe 2 tvs. These days many people have more tvs and more occasional use tvs. As an example we have 7 tvs connected of which all but 3 are occasional use. I have them all connected and PSVues 5 stream limit is perfect for us. At most we have 3 streams going and even that is very rare.
     
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  11. mjwagner

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    Unfortunately the current state of the technology makes it difficult to keep up. For example, in my home theater I have an ATV 4k, FireTV Stick 4k, and a Nvidia Shield just to get all the features and functions I want/need. Hopefully someone will come out with a streaming device that all the services will support with all their features and functions that I can buy (no per STB monthly fees for me).
     
  12. slice1900

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    You only pay the advanced receiver fee once, so it is $7 for an extra receiver not $17.
     
  13. Rich

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    If YES and D* did 4K ballgames I wouldn't be looking for a way to drop D*. But I get your point.

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  14. Rich

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    Are you seeing the Yankee games in 4K? Could you skip thru commercials while watching that woman's tennis (a guess) match?

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    I’ll look and let you know. The Woman’s World Cup was soccer. The 4k was on the live feed only. It’s soccer so not really any breaks or timeouts and I don’t recall seeing any commercials but honestly sort of had it running in the background while I was doing something else...not really a soccer fan, LOL. Like I mentioned, only reason I turned it on was to see how the 4k feed looked.
     
  16. Rich

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    I keep trying apps for sports and I think they all suck compared to the D* experience. I'll try that app on one of my ATVs next time I can find a Yankees game in 4K on it. I don't watch soccer games either as a rule. Last time I watched one all I could think about was whether any of those superb athletes could play baseball. Thinking about that now and I gotta wonder if Giancarlo Stanton (look at that, my spell checker thinks "Giancarlo" is a misspelling) can play soccer. I'd like to see that.

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  17. NashGuy

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    Comcast has had 4K HDR-capable STBs available for awhile now. At least a year, I think. And Comcast has also repeatedly stated that they'll only ever distribute 4K and 4K HDR content via IPTV, never via QAM. Only major TV service doing 4K via QAM that I know of is Verizon FiOS TV, with part-time 4K linear channels for special events. (Some FiOS TV folks have recorded live 4K sports on their TiVo Bolts.)

    The Women's World Cup was the first time that Comcast offered any *live* content in 4K. I expect that they'll push live 4K HDR in a big way with the Tokyo Olympics next year, which will serve as Comcast's big "coming out party" for 4K.

    In many parts of the country, back in March, Comcast began setting up new TV subscribers by default (unless they requested otherwise) with a 100% IPTV installation. They're giving you an Xi5 (HD HDR) or Xi6 (4K HDR) streaming box with no tuners and no hard drive; it relies totally on cloud DVR. They're basically phasing in a set-up similar to what AT&T TV will do.

    As for dedicated full-time 4K channels, it'll never happen, except on DBS. And the only reason linear 4K channels exist there is that it's the only sure way to deliver that content to those customers, given that the working assumption increasingly is that DBS subscribers don't have broadband access. But for everyone else, only select content will be done in 4K and it'll be delivered via IPTV/OTT, where live linear channels can dynamically switch between HD and 4K (depending on content and end-user device), and where 4K on-demand streaming is a native part of the platform. I can imagine DirecTV offering an HBO Max 4K linear channel in the next year but AT&T would make it exclusive to DirecTV. On AT&T TV (and in the HBO Max app), stuff would just automatically stream in the best possible format.
     
  18. NashGuy

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    Yes. And Americans (especially younger ones) are watching on screens other than "TVs". This is why I believe AT&T TV will be priced, like DirecTV Now, to allow 2 simultaneous streams on whatever screens you choose. It'll offer an AT&T TV app for all your popular TV-connected and mobile devices, although it may well require subscribers to take a single AT&T TV box (a custom Google Android TV streamer) from which to initially activate service. But they're not so stupid as to restrict viewing to that box. They know that those days are over. You gotta cater to all screens, in and out of home, now.
     
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    Armstrong has a full time QAM 4K channel that they also use for FS1 4K events
     
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  20. TV_Guy

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    Rich, see the reply to my post about last Saturday's 4K Yankees game. This Saturday's BOS-NYY game at Yankee Stadium is in 4K on FS1 via the Fox Sports App but it seems limited to Roku devices at present. Fubo and Directv should also have it in 4K.
     
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