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DirecTV National HD Listing/Maps Discussion Thread (Technical - Not Anticipation)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Sixto, May 29, 2012.

  1. Gary Toma

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    Alan,

    Just posted the 8/15 TPN Map. The beIN Spanish channel on 119W is still there, still shows as being in *TEST.
     
  2. Sixto

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    Thanks gct. You guys do a fabulous job tracking it all.

    My little basic testing is just a quick check of D10/D11/D12 each morning, you guys do the heavy lifting.

    Thanks again.
     
  3. Alan Gordon

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    It's showing up on the GUIDE... but it appears to be SD only.

    ~Alan
     
  4. P Smith

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    Did you find the channel in "the 8/15 TPN Map" ?
     
  5. ejjames

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    Anyone know when we can expect ion-HD?
     
  6. Sixto

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    Probably soon, since it's in test, but always need contract finalized and testing to be complete before an official launch.
     
  7. Alan Gordon

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    I found the one on 620, but not the one on 426...

    ~Alan
     
  8. Carl Spock

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    Pardon me if the following question has been answered in this thread before now. I did a search through the thread on this issue and while I found a discussion, I never found the answer.

    All other things being equal, which means allowing for enough free channels for Sunday Ticket and special event coverage, with the new encoders enabling six HD channels per transponder, how many new HD channels could DirecTV now add to their line-up?
     
  9. Sixto

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    So in theory 38 could do six, but they'd never max it out, so probably in the 20's, with some already launched.

    I'd say good guess, a couple of dozen, approximately.

    With the continued $ required for conversion, contracts signed, and no more issues with D10, and little contingency for the existing D10 propulsion issue.
     
  10. Carl Spock

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    Thanks, Sixto.

    If I was DirecTV, given the age of D10, I might bank most of the remaining slots, just to be on the safe side.

    This does give them the option, though, to use a couple of them up if it is required in a new contract with a content provider.

    There's a second reason to hold the remaining capacity in reserve.
     
  11. HoTat2

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    Strangely, 426 is only listed in test mode "*BeIN" as an SD channel on 9426 on D7S of the latest guide data release from gct.
     
  12. RAD

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    Dripping...
    D10 isn't that old is it, 6 maybe 7 years IIRC. If D10 bit the dust I don't think any amound of 'banking' would help, that's a lot of capacity to lose.
     
  13. Carl Spock

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    I wouldn't expect DirecTV to lose the whole satellite, only some of its functionality if it developed problems.

    I'm well aware of the concept of a bathtub curve regarding the failure of electronics. 6-7 years is just middle age for electronics. But entropy is real. D10, along with the rest of the universe, is going from a state of order and working to disorder and not working. D10, D11 or D12 could all develop problems but they are more likely to occur with D10. As time goes on, it is more and more likely to break.
     
  14. maartena

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    Life capacity of most satellites is somewhere around the 12 to 15 year range.

    As far as "losing an entire satellite" goes, there are options. There are commercial satellite companies with satellites in the region. These serve thousands upon thousands upon thousands of feeds, from local news crew broadcast vans broadcasting in the field, from the dozens if not hundreds of feeds that are incoming to a news station like CNN, to the hundreds of sports feeds that are coming from college ball parks and sporting events across the nation, to private in-company networks, etc, etc.... If some big conference is held, and some company says: we need 20 HD feeds, there is a company that is leasing that space to them.

    DirecTV could, in an emergency, lease space from a commercial satellite broadcaster. This is VERY EXPENSIVE, so not recommended for daily operations, but if they needed to do something like that for an emergency like this, they can dip into their savings account to prevent people from massively leaving because half the HD content just got dumped because aliens stole D10 and took off with it. Obviously it would take a week or 2 to get things back up, and it would be a huge blow, but it is survivable.
     
  15. RAD

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    How many satellites up there are Ka band with the space necessary in case any of the D10/11/12's happened to meet an untimely death?
     
  16. Alan Gordon

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    Yep... I think that has more to do with timing than anything else.

    I missed 9426 (DUH!!!).

    mshaw2715's statement makes me believe that this is not just an alternate audio channel and is actually beIN Sports 2.

    ~Alan
     
  17. inkahauts

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    Ther is zero reason to hold spots for channels as contingency that I can see. If a transponder goes bad, all the satelites have additional backup transponders that are waiting to be used if one fails. And there is zero chance they could find room for all channels if an entire sat bit the dust, so there is no point in doing that.

    I always ask the question, why would they hold spots for emergency use based on these facts. Also, do they have space held on their sd satelites? I don't think so, so why would they approach their Hi Definition satelites any different?
     
  18. maartena

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    If all three satellites die within the same period of time, I think there is probably something going on that would probably also kill commercial type satellites. :D

    That would be a worst case scenario. I don't know if there is enough satellite space out there to lease to replace THREE satellites. There might be enough space, but it will cost an absolute fortune.
     
  19. RAD

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    I didn't say all three, I said any of the three. So back to is there a Ka band satellite up there that could be moved to 99 or 103 to recover from a total failure of D10, D11 or D12?
     
  20. P Smith

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    SW-1 and SW-2 will help your as hypothetical backups.
     

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