Directv new install? Cabling question...

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  1. Ext 721

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    if that's the plan, you can NEVER let your receivers attempt to access anything but thwe 101 sat, so they msut all be set to "round"
     
  2. Ext 721

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    What the....NO!

    Bad joe! Bad!

    that won't do anything useful.
     
  3. Mertzen

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    I think you forgot the 22Khz tones on 13 and 18. It's 4 wires or it's nothing.

    :nono:
     
  4. krock918316

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    EXT721 - I'm testing one of the SWM units, and it is designed to be mounted on the dish - outside - so that only one cable needs to be brought into the house.
     
  5. Ext 721

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    Nifty, but I'll stand firm that anything circuitboard-ish lasts longer indoors when compared to outdoors.

    Hooray for being designed for outdoor use!!

    how does it mount to the dish? u-bolt on the pole?
     
  6. carl6

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    With the oval 3 or 5 LNB dish there are FOUR signal combinations.
    13V no tone = 99 and 101 odd polarization
    18V no tone = 99/101 even polarization
    13V 22KHz = 103/119 odd polarization
    18V 22KHz = 103/110/119 even polarization

    If you only use 2 coax, you will only get 99/101 odd and even and you will not get 103, 110 or 119.

    Carl
     
  7. joe diamond

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    Carl,
    I'm going to defer to the group wisdom. I rarely get in this deep and I just don't remember if the last install with a similar wire problem involved HD & the 119.

    I plan to add this whole thread to my notes. You would think there would be a tech manual to refer to for this stuff. I did my first KaKu in the dark, in the rain and the only introduction I got was, "well, it 's March 1st and that is the kind they want to start using."

    I learn from both sides of trial and error.

    Guttboy, you are screwed unless somebody else comes up with an idea.

    Joe
     
  8. Guttboy

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    Well folks I have a solution!

    We were still waiting on a final electrical inspection, plumbing, and mechanical inspection (keep fingers crossed that this will happen by Thursday!) and a funny thing happened.

    My electricians were at another job site and I asked them if it was possible to just "pull" the extra coax through the existing hole. They said that it wouldnt be possible but they could cut drywall and run the other 2 cables (total of 4). I told them that that was ok but I would go get a fish tape and attempt this this weekend. Unbeknownst to me...yesterday afternoon they started cutting holes in the drywall and ran the extra cabling:eek2: .

    I spoke with our builder who was a bit shocked that the guys did this and I explained that I didnt tell them to do it but they went ahead and did it any way to make me happy. Not that this is a problem, but "thats why we dont have the owners talk to the subs directly". LOL:D .

    All is well because the final drywall patches wont be made until the inspections are final!

    Sooooo....all in all this was a very good end result for me and I will have the 4 coax cables that I need for the system!!!!!

    WHEW!

    FOLLOW UP QUESTION: If for some strange reason (like the DTV sales person told me) they will be able to install the switch and run everything off of one line...should I do so? OR should I just have them to the 4 home runs to the media closet?

    Thanks again for all the help!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. joe diamond

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    Guttboy,
    You are getting there. You still have to resolve the need for two wires for each
    HD DVR. Now that you will be able to run the 6 x 8 multiswitch from your wire closet and will have 8 sat lines at your disposal,,,,,you need to get 2 to each DVR.
    If the cables go into an attic or false ceiling area above you can follow the existing lines and fish them out the wall boxes.

    The single wire multiswitch (SWM) is not available yet.

    Keep on digging.

    Joe
     
  10. Guttboy

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    Joe,

    I think I am there already. LOL.....

    I only have 3 devices...the DTV folks said that I could most definitely run the 3 boxes from this antenna.

    I assume that they would have to put a switch in the media closet but all 3 boxes will be in this closet. Each home run from the dish will be in this closet as well.

    Make sense...? Or am I missing something...
     
  11. Splendor

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    Each HD DVR needs 2 cables & the non HD receiver uses 1. That's 5 lines total.
     
  12. Guttboy

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    Yup thats what I got in the house now! Was out there all day replacing HDMI cables and toning wires!
     
  13. DrZaiusATL

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    Sounds like you are on the right track. I did the same thing last year with a Media closet in my basement for RF and Data distribution. It sounds like you are distributing VID instead of RF though.
     
  14. DrZaiusATL

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    Did you do DATA as well? or are you going wireless?
     
  15. Guttboy

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    Both....can never have enough backup! For that I mean if wireless card goes out I have hard wire and vice versa.
     
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