DIRECTV Nomad

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  1. Oct 5, 2011 #1981 of 2007
    inkahauts

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    And there is no chance they are going to accomplish it by storing every show from every channel for years on end on their own servers, which is what he was referring to. There is zero chance of that for so many reasons.

    There are plenty of other ways Directv can accomplish that goal, and most are a lot easier to do as well.
     
  2. Oct 5, 2011 #1982 of 2007
    inkahauts

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    I think like you, except I expect everything to be initiated from the mobile device ( i don't expect to see anything about it anywhere on a dvr) the show is going to end up on, so you will have already set the quality, etc, and it will automatically know to send the show to that device over whatever connection was used to set up the transfer in the first place. I don't see any third party products being needed to get programing onto any mobile device.

    We need this thing to launch to see if it's got lots of steps, or is as easy to do as I expect.
     
  3. Oct 5, 2011 #1983 of 2007
    Mike Bertelson

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    Well, yeah. We do have to record it to the DVR but aren’t we doing that now? We record the things we want to watch. Or, are you saying you are going to record things that you wouldn’t ordinarily record just so you can send it to your mobile device?

    We don’t really know how Nomad works but isn’t it possible that it could transcode as it’s receiving the stream from the DVR? For all we know your two steps of transfer then transcode could be one process with transcoding on the fly.

    BTW, your “competitors method” is a completely different kind of service. Nomad seems to be a method of taking your already existing recordings with you and not an on demand service.

    It would seem to me that once it’s up and running the following is just as likely as your process...
    • Watch what’s on my mobile device.
    • Go to Nomad and download some more content and select some other stuff I'd might like to go mobile with.
    • Repeat.
    My assumed procedure is just a likely as yours and I only have to wait as long as it takes to download the video to my device and select some other stuff to transcode. After the first time Nomad is used it shouldn’t take any more time than your “competitors method”. IMHO that wouldn't sound very complicated or time consuming to do.

    However, I think it’s kind of early to rip apart the transfer/transcode/download process because we’re all guessing. If takes as long as you’re assuming then I’d agree it’s a cumbersome process. If it takes as long as I’m assuming then I’m ok with it.

    Mike
     
  4. Oct 5, 2011 #1984 of 2007
    Shades228

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    I was using a generic term so that people would understand the intent of the sentence, not the technical aspect, because it happens in real time. People who know the technology would understand that this is not what is happening. Sorry for any confusion that may have caused.

    So to simplify since time seems to be the main issue:

    Show from DVR to nomad 1:1 ratio
    Show from nomad to device 10 minutes per hour of show average
    1 show can be transfered at a time
     
  5. Oct 5, 2011 #1985 of 2007
    Mike Bertelson

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    Where do those times come from? I can't find a source on the web.

    Mike
     
  6. Oct 5, 2011 #1986 of 2007
    RobertE

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    Training materials that are not, nor should not be made public yet. ;)
     
  7. Oct 5, 2011 #1987 of 2007
    Shades228

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    You can now if you Google it you'll get brought back here!
     
  8. Oct 5, 2011 #1988 of 2007
    Shades228

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    Good guess but incorrect.
     
  9. Oct 5, 2011 #1989 of 2007
    markrogo

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    So there is no batch processing then. So much for that myth espoused in earlier posts.

    The apologists will keep explaining why this is not convoluted, slow or clunky. But normal people have no trouble seeing how 70 minutes to transfer one hour-long program and then starting again to transfer another is all of the above.

    Again, there might well be upgrades to the process that make all this better at some point, but as described in your "so to simplify..." example, it's hard to imagine how they could have made it slower, clunkier or more convoluted -- unless they specifically set those negatives as design goals. As I'm sure they didn't, this appears to be a near-perfect achievement of them nevertheless!
     
  10. Oct 5, 2011 #1990 of 2007
    Mike Bertelson

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    If you believe those numbers then yes it would be 70 minutes and the first time you select stuff to transfer then that’s what it’ll take.

    However, it would seem that once I have stuff on my mobile device, I then select some other stuff to watch. When I’m ready for new material I just do the ten minute download. At the same time I select some stuff for the next download.

    Nomad is just supposed to let you take your recordings with you. It appears to do that.

    BTW, a differing opinion on what is clunky or convoluted doesn’t make someone an apologist. There's no need for name calling...I’m just sayin’ :grin:

    Mike
     
  11. Oct 5, 2011 #1991 of 2007
    Mike Bertelson

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    Then what is the source?

    Mike
     
  12. Oct 5, 2011 #1992 of 2007
    Shades228

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    I don't believe I said there isn't a batch process either. As for the convoluted vs non convoluted part well I guess that's the great part about the ability to choose if you want to buy something. I can say that I can't wait for it to come out as we do a lot of travelling and this will make trips easier to keep up on shows as well as keep the kids entertained without losing my voice from singing songs.
     
  13. Oct 5, 2011 #1993 of 2007
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    I will neither confirm, nor deny that my information comes from the training materials, or from the materials from the device itself. With that being said, I do still chuckle at all the bogus info out here.
     
  14. Oct 5, 2011 #1994 of 2007
    RobertE

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    Nomad is also current set for release tomorrow 10/6.
     
  15. Oct 5, 2011 #1995 of 2007
    dpeters11

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    Any chance another product is being released tomorrow? Had to ask :)
     
  16. Oct 5, 2011 #1996 of 2007
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    Sorry, for various reasons, I'm keeping a lot of stuff close to the chest. ;)
     
  17. Oct 5, 2011 #1997 of 2007
    Tom Robertson

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    One thing to remember is that most of the download services charge for the service on a per item, per month/year, or both basis. Or there are the illegal "services."

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  18. Oct 5, 2011 #1998 of 2007
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    yeah i see that. it just doesnt seem like its all its cracked up to be i mean converting content is real time so 2 hours to transfer a 2 hour show, it deletes after 30 days (which isnt that big of a deal), need open port on router (mine is already full), $149!, Moving content to the nomad is passive, therefore the process will be halted if the DVR with the requested program is conducting a
    Whole-Home session. (so if it is halted will i have to start over of what) seems like there is better options out there to stream content
     
  19. Oct 5, 2011 #1999 of 2007
    dpeters11

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    No problem, had to try. I really wasn't expecting an answer, my wallet and CFO are probably happier.
     
  20. Oct 5, 2011 #2000 of 2007
    west99999

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    what are you hoping for?
     
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