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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Oct 6, 2010.

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  1. Nov 8, 2010 #481 of 2007
    Scott Kocourek

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    IIRC there were also questions in the survey asking about High speed internet in the home and if you would be willing to get HSI for this product.

    I think it would be a let down if it did not allow any king of streaming.
     
  2. Nov 8, 2010 #482 of 2007
    hdtvfan0001

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    If you read the full UL request...it includes a long laundry list of potential capabilities...welll beyond just that. That would seem to infer the final offering will includes some, but not all of those many things listed. We simply don't know yet what will and will not be included.

    I still see nothing firm on streaming being part of the equation.
     
  3. Nov 8, 2010 #483 of 2007
    Steve

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    Good find! I couldn't find the full UL request, just this. Can you share that link?

    But apparently you see something firm on copying?
     
  4. Nov 8, 2010 #484 of 2007
    Richierich

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    That would be Great!!! :hurah:

    The Capability to Download Our Recorded Programs To View On The Go Later without having to have WiFi Capabilities and then later the Icing on the Cake is Streaming Capabilities to keep up with Dish's Slinging Capabilities.
     
  5. Nov 8, 2010 #485 of 2007
    Steve

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    :up:

    And DirecTV would be offering a combination of features none of their competitors offer at the moment... AFAIK. I'm not too familiar with U-Verse, e.g.
     
  6. Nov 8, 2010 #486 of 2007
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    That would help them to Bury Dish and offer Directv Subs alot of Bang for their Buck particularly if you are a Traveling Type.

    I would rather have the Downloading Capability rather than the Streaming Capability if I had to choose one over the other but that is just me and my Preferences.
     
  7. Nov 9, 2010 #487 of 2007
    harsh

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    Doug's explanation of DIRECTV2PC seems to be virtually identical to my theory.

    I remain convinced that you're all wet about NOMAD not prominently featuring a streaming component. To get a UL listing, the equipment had to be essentially consumer ready and been demonstrated to work safely (not necessarily optimally) with each of the features cited in the listing.

    Given the volumes of different kinds of content vying for space on most multimedia handhelds, it seems logical that streaming will figure prominently and that it will be accomplished in a very Sling/HAVA-like manner so that the client device doesn't have to spend a lot of resources on scaling, decrypting or decoding.
     
  8. Nov 9, 2010 #488 of 2007
    Richierich

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    Can you share that Full UL Request with us, hdtvfan0001??? I would like to read it also.

    Looks like we will be Downloading and Streaming our Directv Recordings so we can Truly Watch What We Want When We Want And Where We Want To Watch It!!!

    Very Cool.
     
  9. Nov 9, 2010 #489 of 2007
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    Consumer ready has nothing whatsoever to do with streaming. Streaming is not a requirement to succeed, in fact, not required at all for mobile use of content. Just ask any iTunes user.

    Yes, its an option, but just that....an option.

    With all the issues around bandwidth inconsistency around the country, as well as the newfound growth and momentum around restricting bandwidth...that may not have the glowing future some predicted just a few years back.
     
  10. Nov 9, 2010 #490 of 2007
    Richierich

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    And if Directv wants to keep up with the competition such as Dish with Sling Capabilities they would surely want to have Streaming Capabilities in this day and age to satisfy the Gen-Y Generation of Young People and Streaming is one of Morega's Forte and if you look at what they do you would have to conclude that at some point Directv would use them for Streaming as well as Downloading Directv Content to your Mobile Device.
     
  11. Nov 9, 2010 #491 of 2007
    hdtvfan0001

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    Streaming is still quite imperfect, and not the holy grail some would think. Sling has problems with some of its functionality along those lines...try using a Slingbox on a hotel Internet connection some time.

    Watching a movie on a 3" mobile phone screen may have a neat demo look to it...but watching it for a real 2 hour movie has little practical value.
     
  12. Nov 9, 2010 #492 of 2007
    Richierich

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    Yeah, but how about watching it on my 14" HP Laptop. That should be Pretty Good PQ if you have enough bandwidth/bitrate thruput.
     
  13. Nov 9, 2010 #493 of 2007
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    True...with a major IF...

    It would be interesting if you tried more than one speed tester program to measure your actual internet speeds (up and down). Having done this on numerous PCs...I rarely see the same numbers...few of those software programs measuring actual bitrates are accurate.

    The other reality is that the bandwidth channels are clearly following a roadmap of capacity control - meaning - rationing by rates. That will not help the adoption of future streaming applications, as the demand challenges the capacity.
     
  14. Nov 9, 2010 #494 of 2007
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    Here's a good speed test...press the blue button in the top center to run it...it'll give you upload and download speeds....see how those compare to the program you're running now...

    http://www.speedtest.net/
     
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    Richierich

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    I use Speedtest all of the time. I was referring to 18 Mbps as being within the DECA Network with Content being delivered to my PC via DIRECT2PC which I thought was Pretty Damn Good Speed even though I know when I am Netstreaming Content to my Laptop it will be nowhere close to that.
     
  17. Nov 9, 2010 #497 of 2007
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    DECA is certainly fast.
     
  18. Nov 9, 2010 #498 of 2007
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    Guys, consider this.. even if your hotel internet connection or the like has a good speed, you're uploading it from your home internet connection TO the hotel.. most home internet connections have pretty limited upload, in the range of 512kbps-1.5mbits on average.
     
  19. Nov 10, 2010 #499 of 2007
    Richierich

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    You are Only As Fast As The Slowest Link In The Chain. I have been trying to use my Slingbox in my Marriott Vacation Villa in Hawaii and Hilton Head Island and I normally only get about 300 to 400 kbps which will not allow my Slingbox Pro HD to work properly so I am going to buy a Virgin MiFi 2200 to give me Faster Speed and it has No Data Limitations.
     
  20. Nov 10, 2010 #500 of 2007
    Scott Kocourek

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    Does it need to stream? What about loading/buffering it onto your phone or laptop? You could still choose the size or quality of the file, download it and watch it later. Isn't this how the VOD content works now for the DVR's? Many people can watch the SD version immediately and wait a while for the HD version, others can watch the HD version instantly. It all depends on what kind of internet speeds you can get and are willing to pay for.
     
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