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DIRECTV Nomad

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Oct 6, 2010.

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  1. Dec 20, 2010 #981 of 2007
    Sixto

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    It has the standard iPOD connector for USB to a PC.

    Hmmm, I wonder if you can plug it directly into NOMAD somehow?
     
  2. Dec 20, 2010 #982 of 2007
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    Sixto,

    Hopefully it will take a few steps out of the process. . . I have a DVD Recorder connected via component to my HR20-700. MRV really helps now - I can record anything from either HR.

    Over the weekend, I recorded the Buffett Gulf Coast Concert from August, then used DVDFAB to convert it to iPad format and transferred it via the wifi in GoodReader which also plays it. It was 644MB for 1:30 hours. Probably overkill on the size.

    I would assume that Nomad will convert (transcode) and the iPad player (assuming there is one) will either play as it streams or store it for future playing. AirVideo currently streams and converts (locally on the PC). You then move them through syncing or something like the wifi in GoodReader.

    For the many things I don't want to load directly, AirVideo plays them well from the PCs or NAS.
     
  3. Dec 20, 2010 #983 of 2007
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    I'd vote for Wifi to transfer to the iPad.
     
  4. Dec 20, 2010 #984 of 2007
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    I wouldn't be surprised if you could select the recordings you want via an iOS(/Android/PC) app, and they're network-streamed directly to your iPad(/Droid device/Laptop) as they're converting.
     
  5. Dec 20, 2010 #985 of 2007
    Sixto

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    It would be nice to also have a direct connect option, but we'll see.

    Just looked at 3 NBC recordings, 1 hour SD, each 1.2GB, transcoded for iPad to 650MB each, 5-10 minutes per for TiVo to PC transfer hardwired, took 45 minutes for each transcode, just a few minutes for iTunes sync to iPad via USB.
     
  6. Dec 20, 2010 #986 of 2007
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    Based on 45 minutes per hour of SD, seems like TiVO is transcoding in just under "real time". My hope is that Nomad transcoding speed will be an order of magnitude better, since it's hardware dedicated to nothing else but transcoding, AFAIK. IOW, maybe 4-5 minutes (or less) for that same file that took 45 minutes. Just my .02.
     
  7. Dec 20, 2010 #987 of 2007
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    I'd suggest that if it transcodes a 1-hour program in under 10 minutes, it's doing pretty good. It wasn't that long ago when an hour-long program took longer than an hour to transcode.
     
  8. Dec 20, 2010 #988 of 2007
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    Certainly looking forward to playing with NOMAD and seeing the actual results.

    Seems like there are at least three steps:

    1. Get the recording from the HR2x to NOMAD.

    2. Transcode the recording for the iPad (or other mobile device).

    3. Get the recording onto the iPad (or other mobile device).

    Interested to see if this will be 3 distinct steps, like they are with TiVo Desktop today, or combined somehow.
     
  9. Dec 20, 2010 #989 of 2007
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    That would be my expectation as well, otherwise it would bring nothing new to the table. Hardware transcode also keeps DRM protected. The real convenience will be the high speed with which you can pull things off your DVRs and get them onto your portables. There will be no need to think ahead and plan for which things to transfer and transcode so they will be ready when you will want them. This will make what you want available when you think you will want it for the first time, with no prior planning needed. Assuming that is the way it will work. If it is separate steps or transcoding is slow, then there is not as much advantage over the TiVo method.
     
  10. Dec 20, 2010 #990 of 2007
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    You make it sound like it will be an Instant Transfer but it will still take time to Transcode and Transfer to your Mobile Device so you will still have to Plan ahead prior to walking out the door to get your Recordings onto your Mobile Device.
     
  11. Dec 20, 2010 #991 of 2007
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    Not necessarily .. as an external device, it could predict what you want based on some predetermined criteria (show name, etc.) and the transcoding could just happen. It's not like the device will get angry if the human using it ignores all the work it does.

    In that scenario, the only human wait time would be the transfer time (assuming sufficient time has passed after show aired).
     
  12. Dec 20, 2010 #992 of 2007
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    Ya. I was suggesting 4-5 minutes (or less) for an hour of SD source material, based on Sixto's example. Compared to HD, I figure that's only about 1/4 to 1/3 the source data needed to be transcoded.
     
  13. Dec 20, 2010 #993 of 2007
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    Well, then if it goes ahead and Transcodes it ahead of time, where does it store that transcoded video data, on the Nomad Device itself?

    Then the Nomad must have sufficient storage capacity to handle alot of transcoded data or would it be stored back onto the DVR?
     
  14. Dec 20, 2010 #994 of 2007
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    The 644 MB, 1.5 hour video transfers to the iPad via wifi (5gb N) in 4.5 minutes. . . about 140 MB/minute.

    If you're able to queue up transcoding, you could transfer a couple hours of programs while you pack the car (and wait on everyone to load up!)
     
  15. Dec 20, 2010 #995 of 2007
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    All good questions. (nice to see some productive conversation. :))
     
  16. Dec 20, 2010 #996 of 2007
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    I would be storing about 50 hours of Video so how long would that take to Transfer that to a PC???
     
  17. Dec 20, 2010 #997 of 2007
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    When I used the laptop for viewing, it was easy, I'd schedule recordings to transfer from the TiVo to the laptop the night before traveling. At 5-10 minutes per recording, it was easy and had plenty of extra space on the laptop to just take a bunch of stuff. The only problem with the laptop is it's not so easy to view the laptop on the plane, with the tight seating. The iPad is MUCH easier.

    But with the iPad, I need to be much more selective since there's not only the transfer, but also the 30-40 minutes per recording for transcoding, and then the transfer from the PC to the iPad.

    It will be interesting to see how NOMAD works.
     
  18. Dec 20, 2010 #998 of 2007
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    I bought my 14" Laptop just for NOMAD with a 500 GB hard drive and 6 GB RAM and Great HD Graphics so I am just waiting for NOMAD'S DEBUT!!!

    I am using it right now at The Olive Garden with a Virgin Mobile MIFI 2200 Air Card with Unlimited Data Usage and it works Great!!!

    Now if Directv will just give me NOMAD I am Good To Go!!!

    Also, I will be sitting in First Class so I will have a little extra room on my trips to Hawaii.
     
  19. Dec 20, 2010 #999 of 2007
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    It'll cost ya....and if you can afford 1st class...you can afford NOMAD whenever it comes out. :D

    Bon Appetite' :lol:
     
  20. Richierich

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    I can Definitely Afford NOMAD when it comes out whatever it costs because I think it will be alot of Bang for the Buck in my opinion and especially if you are a Traveler or a Nomadic Wanderer!!! :lol:
     
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