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DIRECTV Nomad

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Oct 6, 2010.

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  1. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Save the Clock Tower!!

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    If all you have are DVRs, the $3 WHDVR fee makes much less sense than if you have only 1 DVR and say 2 or 3 HD receivers. WHDVR gives receivers more functionality. There is value added, hence the fee.
     
  2. Karen

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    I can see charging a fee for Nomad. It will be like adding another receiver, and they already charge for additional receivers. I don't like it, but I can understand it! <g>
     
  3. Jeremy W

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    Hence nothing. DirecTV adds functionality all the time without additional fees. This fee was arbitrary, because DirecTV felt like they could get away with it. And they have.
     
  4. David Ortiz

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    I'm pretty sure you got the point. I'm not arguing the fee. If my $3 a month is allowing me to use my receivers as DVRs, I can appreciate that value. If I already have DVRs everywhere, the value is certainly less.
     
  5. dennisj00

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    Be sure to check out the $29.99 for the iPhone or iPad app for the Sling clients. . .
     
  6. Beerstalker

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    I agree that it is poorly implemented if it automatically interrrupts a NOMAD transcoding process and causes the unfinished program to be deleted and the process to be started over again if you try to use MRV from the same DVR. However, I don't think that the whole concept is necessarily poorly done.

    Think about it, if you want to put a show on your iPhone/Ipad now what do you have to do? Go online, find the show, buy it/rent it, download it, put it in iTunes, and finally sync your device to itunes to transfer it over.

    Is that really that much easier than sitting down at your computer, running the NOMAD program, finding the recording you want, and telling it to transfer over to your computer. Then importing that file into iTunes and syncing it to your device.

    Or going to your DVR and finding the program and telling it to send it to your computer, then importing to iTunes, etc.

    Sounds like a pretty similar process to me.
     
  7. harsh

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    That's the way DIRECTV wants it.

    They tried the route of projecting deliveries, feature sets and other information for DIRECTV 2Go back in 2006 and that ultimately did NOT go well.
     
  8. harsh

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    The competition charges a one-time $40 fee to convert their HD receiver into an HD DVR of sorts. No fancy networking or $10/month DVR fee required.
     
  9. David Ortiz

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    Get back to me when they have the YES Network and MLBEI.
     
  10. LameLefty

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    Did you lose the ability to comprehend analogies when you accepted that promotion to this thread's official "I've Never Used It But I Know It All"? :lol:

    I never said that was the specific basis for any particular fee - I said that specific fees for specific usage scenarios is exactly how the entertainment industry wants everyone to think about content, and that thinking is influencing content providers. And it clearly is.
     
  11. wco81

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    David "Big Papi" Ortiz cares about Yankees games?
     
  12. inkahauts

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    I can see the rational for nomad fees more so than for mrv fees. You are adding an additional location to view your programs, similar to having an additional box, only this one will go with you where ever you go, which you can't do (legally) with your boxes.

    I am curious to see the actual steps to get it onto your ipad, etc.

    Where did you hear about programs not being able to be moved? I would not be surprised, but then again, other than maybe ppv, I don't see why it would be needed with proper encryption.
     
  13. Jeremy W

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    It's up to the broadcasters. If it's marked copy once or copy never, it can't be copied off the DVR. Encryption is irrelevant.
     
  14. inkahauts

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    I personally almost think that hbo 2 go is the better way to go for all the channels when it comes to streaming. Means directv doesn't have to spend the money on the infrastructure to make it happen. But more importantly it would mean, IMHO better access to the catalogues of the channels than you could get with directv. Of course if all the channels are ok with that, then I don;t see why they wouldn't also be ok with streaming from the nomad. All comes down to the contracts and the money.
     
  15. Jeremy W

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    When the content providers are doing the streaming, they have direct access to the viewers. The TV provider is totally cut out of the equation, all they do is say "yep, this person is paying to see your channel" and their part is done. This allows the content providers to do things like targeted advertising. If the streaming is happening outside of their control, they lose that advantage.
     
  16. Shades228

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    How does the remote management of that work? How does that help if one wants to add more recording capability and be able to watch TV at the same time?

    I can understand how in some cases a simple item like that can be good for certain scenarios but attempting to compare an EHD to MRV is too big of a stretch.
     
  17. Shades228

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    There's a reasom HBO costs more than other premiums and I can guarantee that the last contract negotation had a price increase for use of to go.

    HBO can control their website but they cannot control to go. Also going to HBO drives the HBO brand with a consumer as watching a movie on a nomad they might forget, and won't care, what channel broadcasted it.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    I agree with everything you say about the MRV fee, but then I turn and look at my local cable companies and how they charge, and man, they charge for everything that directv charges for and more, the only difference is they like to hide the fees in with one fee thats far higher. I mean, really, 20 a month for a dvr with hd access? And that's per dvr??? Maybe some company out there doesn't charge for that, but I'll bet most do. And nine times out of ten, if they don't its because they are trying to entice new customers and their only chance to pull customers away is to heavily undercut other providers to get their foot in the door, and eventually they will all have the same fees. I am talking about U-verse and Fios here... They are tiny companies in terms of customers in comparison to the big boys right now..

    So yeah, I don't like the mrv fee, but then I am happy they didn't do like everyone else and simply raiser their dvr fees or lease fees $3 and not call it the mrv like everyone else has done. At least this way, people have a choice and if they don't have MRV, they aren't paying for others to have it.

    Frankliy, it all sucks... but yet for me, they are still a lot cheaper, even if you call it nickle and dimming, cause its really not any different than anyone else, so what is someone to do. :shrug:
     
  19. inkahauts

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    You don't think the providers are getting their cut in that somehow? I'll bet they are, maybe simply by more favorable terms in their contracts, and probably data on their customers viewing habits as well. Both probably collect and share data with each other. No one is scratching anyone's backs for free around here. Thats been proven monthly every time I get my bill. :(
     
  20. Jeremy W

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    What kind of cut? They're probably paying extra to get their subscribers access to these services. And the viewing data is practically irrelevant to them, since it's not on their platform.
     
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