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DirecTV Not Providing HBO GO for Roku

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by oakwcj, Oct 29, 2011.

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  1. harsh

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    DIRECTV doesn't provide the plumbing. That's up to your broadband provider. DIRECTV provides only authentication.
     
  2. ThePhantom

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    Understood. I guess my point was that we're not asking D* to share their "added value" programming (like Audience) with a competing device -- rather, just like cable, D* is largely a "dumb pipe", providing access to programming provided by others. Why they'd have a hair across their backside over the Roku is still perplexing. HBO should be the one who should have any issue with branding or competitive perception. As I see it:

    D* + HBO GO + Roku = enhanced customer retention (keeping people subscribed to HBO, who would otherwise dump it)

    Netflix + Roku = no connection to D* whatsoever.


    D*'s concept of "oh, we'll provide the content thru our on-demand eventually" seems like a smokescreen. Unless there are plans to supplant the bag of suck that the current on-demand browsing is, the content is only part of the problem. Use a Roku, a Samsung Smart TV, or a Sony Bravia for 5 minutes and you'll see what I mean...
     
  3. oakwcj

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    I agree that there is a lot of smoke, but I have no idea what's behind the screen. I do know what isn't on the screen.
     
  4. dcowboy7

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    Yea i dont care.
     
  5. dualsub2006

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    D* is going to allow HBO Go on he stupid Xbox, but not the Roku.
     
  6. MikeW

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    I am quite disappointed with the Samsung app. I have attempted to watch two movies. Both movies have stopped at about 45 minutes in. I also have issues with their MLB app. Netflix works great. I would really prefer the ability to use ROKU as it seems to be much more stable.
     
  7. oakwcj

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    I know that being DirecTV means never having to explain the rationale for your inconsistent policies, but this is ridiculous. There are a hell of a lot more XBOX units than Rokus in the wild. Why is Roku HBOGO access a "threat" to DirecTV while XBOX access isn't?
     
  8. cygnusloop

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    Yep. DIRECTV authenticating for the XBOX.

    But not the ROKU. Sheesh...

    Guess it's time to email Ellen again. Don't know what else to do.
     
  9. dualsub2006

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    Wouldn't be shocked if Microsoft is giving D* a little nut for every one of their subscribers that activate HBO Go on the Xbox.

    I don't like it, not one bit. Other than canceling my premiums and using that as the reason, I don't know what to do.
     
  10. inkahauts

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    I could understand what DirecTV was doing with the roku with the theory they wanted to control the tv experience. Now I just don't get it. They just lost all logical reasons that they could be stopping it from a roku. Because Xbox, it looks to me, is going to be trying to create an experience similar to that of a roku as time progresses, and will probably offer everything that a roku does within a couple years, IMHO.

    Just weird. Which does lead me to one of two conclusion. Either roku does not offer a secure enough platform either by signal or by user info encryption to satisfy DirecTV, or There is money changing hands somewhere in some way to make all this happen.
     
  11. cygnusloop

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    And, as usual, it's the consumer (otherwise known as a DIRECTV paying customer) that gets screwed.
    Ridiculous.:nono2:
     
  12. dualsub2006

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    Authentication and delivery are the same exact methods used to provide the service to the Xbox. It's not security.

    It's about money. Has to be.

    My mind is just about made up to drop premiums from package. Voting with my wallet is the only thing that I can think to do. I said I would if D* added Xbox and not Roku, now I have to follow through or get off the pot.
     
  13. inkahauts

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    Xbox and roku use the same servers to route everything to Hbo, passwords, etc? That be surprising.
     
  14. WestDC

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    Each Streaming Service has to work out it's own contract.
     
  15. dualsub2006

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    The Xbox and Roku are activated the sane way. The content comes from HBO. Roku is secure enough for HBO and the 8 or 9 carriers that allow it.
     
  16. dualsub2006

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    That's helpful, only its not really.
     
  17. Drew2k

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    I activated HBO Go on my XBOX today and it was very easy. Go to XBOX, add HBO Go from the App Store and launch it. Select DIRECTV as my provider and see a code. Go to HBOGO.com/acttivate, enter the code from my XBOX, specify DIRECTV as my provider, enter my DIRECTV username and password, see "authorized" in my browser. Wait for XBOX to show "service Authorized". Start browsing titles.

    Sound familiar? It's just like authorizing Netflix on the Roku. I see no reason why this HBO Go can't be authorized for the Roku by DIRECTV in the same fashion. Makes no sense.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    I don't think you understand where the concern would be. I am not sure that DirecTV feels that roku protects their passwords enough as it passes through their system. If someone can get ahold of that password and username, they can get into their DirecTV account, and that could cause all kids of issues for DirecTV. I am not saying that's the problem, but I am saying that simply saying that can't be an issue is incorrect. They are very big on security.
     
  19. inkahauts

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    Ok, just thought of a possible new reason.

    They have told roku they won't allow it till they allow the roku to act as a rvu box. :)

    Look, the authentication process, that's me grasping at straws trying to find the most logical reason left, and that's about all I can think off. It could be an issue, but I have no idea if it is, and figure it probably isn't.

    I am fully annoyed at the whole thing... And just trying to find a reason...
     
  20. Drew2k

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    Here's what SatelliteRacer said in the XBOX HBO Go thread:

    XBOX is not authenticating, DIRECTV is, and Time Warner is, etc. Replace XBOX with Roku in the last sentence and it would be the same on the Roku as it is on the DIRECTV. Roku already has the HBO Go app, DIRECTV just chooses not to "allow it" (authentication pass through) and thus prevents it. Why? No idea. It's only speculation that it's about security, but since the device only presents a code, and authentication against DIRECTV is done via a secure web page in a web browser, I'm not seeing the security concerns...
     
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