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DirecTV Not Providing HBO GO for Roku

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by oakwcj, Oct 29, 2011.

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  1. Apr 3, 2012 #321 of 403
    Mike Bertelson

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    I've never claimed to know what the rate is. If you re-read my posts you'll see I clearly said it was a guess.

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  2. Apr 3, 2012 #322 of 403
    MikeW

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    I'm just saying the Hoosier suggests that his opinion is fact without anything from DirecTV to substantiate his claim. In a completely un-related topic, he does ask another user to provide proof.
     
  3. Apr 3, 2012 #323 of 403
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    The most popular streaming service is Netflix. The two leading streaming devices for Netflix are the PS3 (about 30%) and the XBox360 (about 25 %). Both the footprint and usage for streaming (in general) of video game devices far exceeds streaming only devices like Roku.

    Exactly. If DirecTV offers a better viewing experience than secondary boxes, DirecTV customers will prefer to use DirecTV. They are already subscribed to DirecTV, after all.

    This is just so ludicrous. You subscribe to HBO through DirecTV either way. DirecTV is getting the money for the subscription. If someone believes the streaming options Roku has over the XBox 360 streaming options is enough incentive to make people quit subscribing to DirecTV, they must either have a very poor opinion of DirecTV's offerings or feel the need to take DirecTV's side without thinking. Those are the only options that make any sense
     
  4. Apr 4, 2012 #324 of 403
    man_rob

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    False why? Roku is not a content provider, say like Sony, and their PlayStation video on demand services, http://us.playstation.com/games-and-media/movies/ that competes directly with DirecTV's similar service. Then there is all the other video channels available via sony.
    http://us.playstation.com/psn/psn-services/ That is just a sampling, and they now offer Amazon Prime as well.

    Roku is an electronic video streaming device. It's a piece of hardware that retrofits older TVs with smart TV video streaming.
     
  5. Apr 4, 2012 #325 of 403
    joed32

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    Is Crackle on Smart TVs, or Al Jazeera English or an XXX movie channel? They're not on my smart TVs. Roku is a lot better than my Sony or LG both of which have Netflix, Hulu +, etc.
     
  6. Apr 4, 2012 #326 of 403
    MarkG21

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    What is more likely?

    Cord cutting through a gaming counsel or through a roku (or apple TV)?
     
  7. Apr 4, 2012 #327 of 403
    MCHuf

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    I think it's more likely through a streaming box. Most people buy consoles primarily to play games. Streaming media is secondary for them. People buy a Roku, AppleTV or a Boxee to watch video.

    For now I don't think pay-tv providers are that worried about "cord cutters". I think their big concern is people dropping their packages down and replacing leased equipment with a streaming box. Right now I have three tv's. Two of them are connected to a Dish 722K dvr. The third is connected to a $49.99 Roku LT box. I'm saving some money per month by having one less stb from Dish. I watch Netflix, Amazon, HBOGO, EPIX, Crunchyroll, Roku News channel plus a lot of internet-only channels on that tv. Since all my sets are connected to a roof-top antenna, I get a lot of programing on that set without being connected to Dish.

    Let's say you subscribe to a certain package because of a couple of channels. And let's say both those channles sign big deals with Netflix, Amazon Prime or Hulu Plus. You could replace a stb or dvr on one tv, and/or even drop down to a lower package. This is what the pay-tv providers really fear. Of course this could lead to "cord-cutting". But with more and more sports going the pay-tv channel route, IMO, it's not that much of a problem (yet). Now if the NFL ever offered a streaming version of Sunday Ticket, that would be a game changer! Then you could watch every major league sport online through a streaming box.
     
  8. Apr 4, 2012 #328 of 403
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    The data I have seen is that people with a PS3 or XBOX are more affluent and want it all. The gaming, the streaming, the tv provider. They are much less likely to cord cut or cord shave.

    People with Roku or similar devices often are on the cheap and more likely to cut the cord. I'm sure DTV is seeing the same data. So is Comcast and others that don't support Roku.
     
  9. Apr 4, 2012 #329 of 403
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    I was in an Apple Store a few weeks ago. I was playing around with the Apple TV hooked up to a 42" widescreen TV checking out the different free videos and rental previews. The video quality, even from Apples own offerings was horrible. I don't know if it was hooked up with hdmi but I thought I was looking at realplayer videos from 15 years ago or a bad vhs vcr connected by composite. Even Netflix and Youtube streaming on a Wii connected to an SD tube tv via composite looked better. It was definitely a turnoff on a future purchase of that device to go along with my ipad.
     
  10. Apr 4, 2012 #330 of 403
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    Yep, completely agree. I should have said cord cutting or downgrading service/receivers.


    I agree. Gaming counsels and streaming devises cater to different crowds. I believe DirecTV (and other companies) are more worried about Roku users downgrading or cutting compared gaming counsel users.


    That may be just the conditions at that store. I have bought a few videos from the iTunes store and they look pretty good to me. DTV looks better when compared though. I mainly use my Apple TV for my blu ray rips.
     
  11. Apr 4, 2012 #331 of 403
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    Crackle is on the PS3. Does DirecTV fear that the 4 or 5 Al Jazeera viewers are going to dump them? (It can be watched via PS3 as well.) And while there is a pay per view porn on Roku, there's free porn on the PS3 via the internet. Who pays for it these days? Not to mention there's flash support on the PS3 so many network shows are available for free on it as well.
     
  12. Apr 4, 2012 #332 of 403
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    They are all just as likely to lead to cord cutting, ans they all offer virtually identical content.
     
  13. Apr 4, 2012 #333 of 403
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    No

    No

    A $60 streaming player is not the same as a $200-$250 gaming console, nor do they offer the same content.
     
  14. Apr 4, 2012 #334 of 403
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    Not that I watch xxx but plenty free on the Roku. I have a Smart TV, an XBox, a WII, and a Bluray with streaming but easiest to use and best quality is the Roku. Again an apple and orange situation as you can get a half dozen Rokus for the price of a game console. Mostly the massive amount of channels on the Roku feeds my intellectual curiosity. TechTV may have been too "niche" for Cable/Sat but I probably watch five hours a week of TWIT, it's streaming legacy. The Roku does not have a browser but I found that I prefer to web surf with a tablet or laptop while watching my TV. I do not actually know any cable cutters but have friends who have taken the cable boxes out of their teenagers rooms because the kids only play games, surf the web, and text!
     
  15. Apr 4, 2012 #335 of 403
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    PS3 and Xbox 360 prices will drop considerably over the next couple of years as they launch PS4 and Xbox 3. May not be comparable today, but in time it certainly will be, with the consoles offering much more value for a very similar price.

    Plus it's not really the consoles offering the service, it's XBL and Playstation Network, which can extend to multiple devices.
     
  16. Apr 5, 2012 #336 of 403
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    The porn channel is free on the Roku as well and not PPV. I don't think that Directv should fear people with streaming devices at all. I was just touting the Roku as a very good streamer.
     
  17. Apr 5, 2012 #337 of 403
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    The data you have seen? I would think that people buying gaming machine would tend to be younger and people who don't care about gaming to be older and more affluent. I have 3 Roku's, Directv Premiere and Netflix, with 5 DVRs and one HD receiver and Sunday Ticket. Hardly on the cheap. And I don't game.
     
  18. Apr 5, 2012 #338 of 403
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    Studies do show that gamers are more affluent than non-gamers, and their average age has been steadily rising. A study last year showed an average age of 37, with 29% of gamers over the age of 50.
     
  19. Apr 6, 2012 #339 of 403
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    I wonder how much of this argument is about age. I don't consider myself "young" but I'm close to the average age of video games owners, which might explain why the "X-Box is video game system" posters sound, to me, as out of touch as companies who a decade or more ago attempted to put malware on computers because their customers wanted to rip their own CDs to their music library.

    I also find it disturbing the extent to which a few DirecTV consumers, and only a very few consumers, seem so upset by the notion that a DirecTV subscriber might choose other viewing options along side their DirecTV subscription. As a consumer, I would think you would not only want multiple choices, but also the ability to enjoy multiple choices simultaneously. When someone resorts to a "because DirecTV says so" defense, it comes across less as loyalty than a pathology.
     
  20. Apr 6, 2012 #340 of 403
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    You would be surprised who buys gaming systems. They skew close to 40. I only know this because of the studies done for NFL ST on the PS3. Very affluent, men, close to 40 years old.
     
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