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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by oakwcj, Oct 29, 2011.
The atari generation is taking over the boomer generation in terms of driving products.
Maybe I'm just too old. Home computers didn't even exist when I was young. I did buy an Atari for the kids though.
I am in my 30's and many friends above me by a few years have gaming systems AND their parents/friends have systems even if they get them just for the Netflix/Streaming parts.
The age of gaming systems is getting older
All due respect to Hoosier's point of view, but if you accept that DIRECTV's position in all this is to protect/maintain their subscriber base from cord cutting/shaving, then logic would seem to dictate that the Trojan horse that the XBOX represents is the much greater potential threat.
There must be something else to it.
Logic would dictate otherwise. Roku is a more affordable and is also a dedicated streaming device that is much more prominent in cord cutting. Streaming is only secondary with gaming consoles. I'm not sure how best to explain this. It is what it is.
But what? I am not seeing other theories being proposed much less proven.
I can easily see DirecTV seeing Roku as the biggest threat, especially if you realize that there is no other advantage to working with Roku. XBOX has other corporate entanglements that DirecTV can take advantage of. Roku has none.
I guess the "why" of HBO-Go not being offered on the Roku doesn't really matter. I've been with Direct for about 16 years and do not remember them making any quick about faces on their policies. If so we would be watching BBCA HD on a Tivo! I doubt anyone will be changing providers over the issue.
Preexisting business relationships with Microsoft and Samsung?
ROKU is too small a fish in DIRECTV's estimation to even bother?
I do stand by my opinion that if DIRECTV is worried about their subscribers "discovering" the world of online video services, supporting it (and tacitly encouraging it even) on the XBOX is a pretty poor strategy.
Which, to me, is why all the arguments about big old DIRECTV feeling threatened by little old ROKU just fall flat. I suppose it is possible that DIRECTV is that short sighted, but I think they are smarter than that.
I don't think directv is worried about people going out buying an Xbox, buying Xbox gold live just to play hbo go. It's a nice addition to a secondary feature if you already have an Xbox and an gold membership.
As mentioned before, Roku is primarily a streaming player. It does nothing else. It's cheap. It can give some users ideas how they want to go about their existing subscriptions.
That said, I wish Dtv would allow access to the Roku. When I first heard about Roku getting hbo, I immediately bought one but since returned it because I didn't need it other than hbo.
I can see the disappointment if your a both Roku user and directv user. You have no intentions on canceling or downgrading service but you still get locked out because of the potential of what others will do.
As fascinating as I've found this discussion, I'd much rather DirecTV hurry up and release the VOD improvements that will supposedly compensate for the lack of Roku support. At the end of the day, I really just want some justification to give my wife for subscribing to HBO. I can't say I need more programming because the DVRs are always almost full. That doesn't fly. "Get rid of some shows," she'd say. I need the programming available whenever I want it, not taking up space on my DVR. I recorded all of The Wire on 101/Audience and it's taken me a year to get through it. I will subscribe to HBO when I have on demand access to their catalog. It's a certainty.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY, DIRECTV. HELP ME OUT.
This isn't the be all and end all of argument winners, but:
It should be noted that this link comes from a UK site. I realized this because of the line
The breadth of content services available in the UK still lags behind the US,
The sad part is that by most of us simply explaining how home entertainment works nowadays it's more likely DirecTV will pull current access support to different boxes for their subscribers, not add new ones.
Other links to the obvious:
It's actually not a correct article. The one a few weeks ago was more accurate. The article is talking about the "ONLINE" aspect of XBOX only but people are implying that they are using the XBOX (and PS3) for more online that standalone functionality. That is not correct.
In other words, the PS3 and XBOX are still used primarily to play disc based games or downloaded to hard drive games more than anything else. What these articles are talking about is when customers do use them for online services, THEN they are using it for things like streaming video, etc more than games.
So X-Box has what? at least 20 million X-box Live subscribers who watch streaming and Roku has sold exactly how many boxes?
I know, I know; X-Box owners play video games too.
If the presumption is that DIRECTV will not support "streaming-only" devices, then the unanswered question is why would DIRECTV willingly invite XBOX users to sample and increase the use of streaming options on XBOX (by authorizing HBO.com on the device)? ROKU is "bad" because it's not a gaming system? But XBOX is a gaming system and a streaming system, and DIRECTV is inviting users to do more streaming, and that's OK?
The only not allowing it accomplishes is angering your customers (however given the current state of the HR2Xs I'm not sure D* really cares about angering their customers).
It isn't going to stop anyone from getting a ROKU box, all it is going to do is leave a bad taste in a customers mouth when they see other products are supported and other cable companies supporting HBO to Go with Roku.
And, assuming that your data is reliable at present, what makes you think that the situation won't change now that HBO GO is available on the XBOX? How 'ya gonna keep them down on the farm once they have seen Paris? You don't have to be in the 1% to afford an XBOX.
I understand your point, but the 2 big cable giants (Time Warner and Comcast) aren't supporting HBOGO on Roku, either.
Maybe they figure Xbox is owned by people who spend a lot more money on entertainment, and roku is sold to people who want to spend as little as possible on entertainment, and that they have done studies to show that people who use online gaming systems for streaming do it strictly for supplementary viewing,not replacement viewing? Just guessing...
I don't have a Roku but I just added the HBO Go app to my Xbox 360 so I had to go to hbogo.com/activate to activate the xbox on my hbogo account after getting the authentication number on the device. I'm not sure if this will work but instead of picking Roku from the pulldown try picking either xbox 360 or smarttv and clicking on Directv and logging in then providing the number and see if it will activate.
Here's the list of current providers authenticating for roku:
AT&T U-verse, Charter, Cox (beta), dish, Mediacom, Optimum, RCN*, suddenlink, Verizon, WOW!, BendBroadband, Blue Ridge Communications, Grande Communications, HTC Digital Cable, Massillon Cable/Clear Picture, Midcontinent Communications, HBO Employee/Guest, Other
This all becomes very pointless when the VOD is updated, so I'm not sure why some are so upset.