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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Tom Robertson, Jan 15, 2009.
how much will a tech get paid to install it? and how much does it cost the customer?
Jose Whales??? Is that a Hispanic fish? :lol:
I prefer the term switch, since it is the correct one. The Broadcom chip used in the HRs is an ethernet switch.
Precisely why I said "If the DSL service uses a gateway and not a simple dsl modem". Good luck finding a residential hi-speed internet provider who doesn't refer to the their NAT/DHCP/Wireless capable "communications protocol converters" as GATEWAYS.
The terminology may be "unconventional" to you, but not to the rest of the world. With the exception of using "router" incorrectly (should have been switch), everything in the post was completely accurate.
It's Jose (Joe-see) not José. Clint Eastwood will find you and make his day.
Oh and Whales are mammals not fish.
Well...You must mean The Outlaw Josey Wales then.
Just giving you a chance to get me back.:lol:
Precise terminology is important. Using the wrong terminology aboard a sailboat while running a narrow inlet in rough water could get you dead. With this stuff it could be life threatening if the ensuing confusion drives you to run screaming at high speed out your living room door forgetting it opens onto a 12th story balcony!
My DSL Router is a Gateway. It bridges my ethernet lan to the internet backbone via ADSL. It functions as a gateway in that it is bridging between 2 quite different protocols and interfaces. It also acts as a router because it performs Network Address Translation, routing incomming packets from the DSL line to the correct device on my home LAN. It is a DHCP server because it assigns a different private IP address to each of my connected devices and remembers which is which. `In addition it provides firewall service. As if that weren't enough, it is also a wireless hub, bridging yet another protocol / interface set to both the wired ethernet and the DSL Line.
The simpler DSL modem is still a gateway because it does translate between ethernet or USB and the ADSL line.
Even before the internet became what it is today, Gateways were the devices that bridged the LAN at a local sales office to the corporate network. That is exactly what even the simplest DSL MoDem is doing.
I would also think, at your nearby central office, the line card for a Plain Old Telephone is a gateway because it gives a simple pair of wires acess to the entire world-wide Public Switched Telephone System.
The appropriate terminology is dependant on who you are communicating with. If the crew are not trained sailors, spouting 'precise' terminology is useless. Using terms that they can recognise or may be familiar with is much more effective.
What's so life threatening about being on a 12th floor balcony?
Using "correct" terminology is never useless. Changing up in attempt to dumb down to a crowd is confusing as there are so many definitions that go with the terminology. It is even worse when the words used are not at all appropriate in the context.
In rough conditions, left and right can sound pretty much the same and commands that involve several simple words will often get lost in the activity.
Better to crash into the rocks yelling "starboard" than successfully traverse the channel yelling "right".
Now, as to how all this non-sense relates to the topic:
The user DVISTHE posted a few replies stating that it would cost him $100 or more to be able to use Video on Demand since he only has dsl connected to a single computer. In an effort to communicate TO HIM that he may possibly have what is needed already, I used the most commonly referenced name for the devices provided by the major cable/dsl providers that allow mulitple home network devices to share the single dsl service line. Contrary to what you may wish HARSH, this term is in fact GATEWAY. Pull up any ISP web-site you wish, they will all refer to these as such. AT&T, Time Warner, Comcast, the list goes on. Many of the devices even have the term as part of their actual product name. I specifically chose that term because that is what I thought THE USER I WAS ATTEMPTING TO COMMUNICATE WITH might recognise if he in fact did have a communications protocol converter that would peform the translation of his single dsl provider provided public IP Address to mulitple private addresses and not just a simple bridging communication protocol converter that was only capable of providing a single address. My error, which you so observantly pointed out HARSH, was to state that the HR-21 might act as his ROUTER. Clearly, everyone knows that a router is expected to provide much more functionality than what the 2-port ethernet SWITCH integrated into the HR21 and up HD DVRS is capable of. But again, I was using the term, admittedlty in error, more to express the point of multiple connections than it's true functional role in the network.
I have revised my original post to DVISTHE in an effort to avoid any future confusion should someone land here in the future...
What is the top download speed from D*? I have recently upgraded to the Uverse 18/1.5 pack for the same price as the old 10/1.5. My tests consistently showed 17+M download, and an HD VOD download time is almost hour for an hour show now.
I found it hard to believe it took about 15+mbps to download an MPEG4 HD show. Unless if D* is capping the speed on their end.
Now there's 5,643 channels and there's STILL nothing on!
Color me unimpressed. We've been playing around with DoD for two (?) years now, and the choices are still abysmal! And the little/none HD content is a joke. Plus, why do they charge $1.00 more for stuff that was on PPV a month earlier, at $1.00 less?
See, even though Linksys isn't an ISP and, as a maker of network hardware should "know better", even they use the term "gateway" for these devices.
Thanks for helping to prove my point.
I was actually proving my point. I said earlier that the term gateway as used in reference to a relatively obscure device that serves as both a modem and a router (and even more rarely, a SIP adapter). You seem to be content to apply the term to standalone modems which continue to be called modems by the cable and phone companies as well as the companies who manufacture them. It is notable that DLink doesn't offer a DOCSIS "gateway".
What is the name on the device that you connect to the Internet with?
What network thingy do I need to connect my HR20 to my wireless doohickey that connects to the internets?
Several ways to do it. Are you are starting from scratch (no current home network), or if you already have a home network?
Thanks, loudo. I don't really need any help. HR20 is hardwired to my router and working fine. I was just trying to add some levity to the terminology discussion and get the thread back on topic.
That would be nice. I dropped both HBO and STARZ about 2 months after D-11 was active. I had promised to give them time to add more HD feeds before acting but a couple months was enough. I won't watch them in SD so I signed back up for Netflix. My DVD player does a decent job of upconverting and sure looks a far cry better than SD feeds of movies channels.
I've gotten so used to not having them now I might never add them back. I might decide to get a Blue Ray instead.
I would hardly consider them to be 'obscure'.
You need to go back and re-read my initial post. I used the term "Gateway" specfically to differentiate between a standalone modem and a more capable device. The gateway being the more capable device.
But they do offer a:
DVA-G3810BN Triple-Play Home Gateway
I myself use a:
Netopia Model 3347WG-VGx Wireless ADSL Gateway
My sister has TimeWarner cable internet and she uses a:
Netgear Wireless Cable Modem Gateway CG814W
My in-laws just had AT&T Uverse installed, they use an:
AT&T U-verse Residential Gateway (RG)