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DirecTv RVU Client Boxes - When ?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jeremymc7, Jan 3, 2012.

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  1. dwcolvin

    dwcolvin Icon

    Oct 4, 2007
    The TV could have a digital audio output.
  2. dwcolvin

    dwcolvin Icon

    Oct 4, 2007
    Just curious... it the RVU standard a work-in-progress? And is the HR34 availability an answer to a "chicken and egg" problem?

    I ask because it would seem the release of the HR34 is premature. From DirecTV's standpoint it is great with RVU... install a SWiM LNB, one HR34 and a bunch of RVU clients and a customer is set, and the monthy charge is the same as a houseful of DVRs and receivers.

    But, as it stands, many ordering the HR34 are requiring significant infrastructure upgrades... SL3/SL5 LNBs, SWiM-16s, etc., with significant installation cost to DirecTV. And the telling thing is the HR34 is in abundant supply.

    So, is today just a stopover in a massive paradigm shift?
  3. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

    Mar 18, 2008
    Only to existing customers which in reality this system was not designed specifically for. When setup from scratch and RVU clients are available it will be cheaper overall for SAC purposes once the initial R&D costs are covered.
  4. dwcolvin

    dwcolvin Icon

    Oct 4, 2007
    That's what I was saying... why was the HR34 even released without RVU client availability? :confused:
  5. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Because it's still a great 5-tuner DVR.
  6. dwcolvin

    dwcolvin Icon

    Oct 4, 2007
    Absolutely! A marvelous piece of technology.

    But current upgrades that will exceed 8 tuners force replacing LNB, running 4-coaxes (and associated grounding) and SWiM-16. That's a lot of installation cost and complexity.

    (In my case, the infrastructure was already there, so it was plug and play :))

    I think what I'm saying is, rather than (maybe) giving discounts to existing customers or having one install fee for <= and > 8 tuners, if I were DirecTV I would make an existing customer pay for that extra infrastructure that will eventually be unnecessary (in many cases).

    p.s. But now that I think of it, the current feeding frenzy may only be in our little world, and be insignificant in the larger DirecTV picture.
  7. ptrubey

    ptrubey Mentor

    Jan 22, 2006
    Part of the reason for an HR34 release now rather than later when a C30 might be available is probably for competitive reasons. AT&T U-Verse DVRs have ability to record 4 simultaneous shows.

    I'll be waiting for a C30 before making the big switch over myself, but everyone's needs are different.
  8. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    There are probably more TVs that don't forward surround sound than those that do so that's probably not a viable option.
  9. dwcolvin

    dwcolvin Icon

    Oct 4, 2007
    Even my cheapest TV with an HDMI in has a digital audio out (if for no other reason than to feed audio from broadcast/cable somewhere)
  10. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    Understood... but many TVs don't pass Dolby Digital over their optical outs. I know my 2011 Samsung doesn't. I don't even know if it passes it over HDMI/ARC (because my audio receiver is too old)
  11. Beerstalker

    Beerstalker Hall Of Fame

    Feb 9, 2009
    Peoria, IL
    While almost all do have a digital audio out, most will not ouput dolby digital surround sound for anything other than their internal ATSC/cable tuner. So if you run an HDMI cable from your DirecTV receiver to the TV, and then an optical cable from the TV to your surround sound system, you most likely will only get 2.0 stereo sound.

    Some TVs are actually able to take the dolby digital stream from the HDMI input and output it over the optical out, but most TVs aren't able to.
  12. jasonblair

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    Sep 5, 2006
    From my memory, ALL TVs with a digital optical output will only output 5.1 sound from the internal tuner. Anything coming in from a TV input will be down-converted to 2 channel stereo over the optical out. It was something the TV manufacturers agreed to in order to fend off a lawsuit from content providers, and get Dolby Digital certification.

    The only way to get Dolby Digital is through an HDMI audio return channel, as there are HDCP copy protection protocols for HDMI.

    It's kind of the audio equivalent to DRM downrezzing over component cables from Blu-ray players.
  13. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Save the Clock Tower!!

    Aug 21, 2006
    Fresno, CA
    My Sony XBR1 would pass 5.1 sound from the firewire input to the digital optical out.
  14. NR4P

    NR4P Dad

    Jan 15, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    My Sony TV takes the audio output from my HR24 via HDMI and then passes out DD from the Sony TV optical out. Tried it tonight to confirm it.
  15. sdf1984

    sdf1984 New Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    Not having the c31 client is hurting my DirecTV sales. the hop and joe is killing us. the sad part is, DirecTV had their HR34 out first, but no clients. come on guys, get with the program.
    at the very least give us a heads up on an expected release date, to give us hope.
  16. kevinturcotte

    kevinturcotte Active Member

    Dec 19, 2006
    I think they should just skip the RVU client and release an H25 with a small built in hard drive for trick play of live tv. Just have RVU in the actual Tvs themselves, like the Samsung.
  17. heisman6183

    heisman6183 AllStar

    Jun 4, 2008
    My current setup is all equipment (DirecTV box, blu ray player, gaming system) running HDMI to my a/v receiver inputs, then one HDMI output to my TV for the picture (let the receiver do the audio out to 5.1 speakers). That's the same if I were to upgrade to an HR34 right? It would be nice to have a client box for my second tv where you can pause/rewind live tv. That's the only real feature missing with my current WHDVR setup.
  18. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

    Nov 16, 2005
    Wylie, Texas
  19. kaz

    kaz Legend

    Sep 17, 2006
    Why would you want a C30/31 at $12 monthly fee (and no stand alone tuner), when a H24 can stream and remote record the same way w/ a stand alone tuner at $6/mo. am I missing something?
  20. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Where are you getting $12/month? Everything I've heard is $6/month for an RVU client, not $12.

    Advantages of the C31 would be you have all the same functionality on the C31 that you'd have with a HD DVR. You'd have full trick play, without first having to say to record the program, DoublePlay, Pandora, playlist management, DIRECTV on Demand, smaller footprint, less power usage, doesn't take a SWiM channel and caller ID without a phone line connection are some that come to mind.
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