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DIRECTV Satellite Discussion D-14 @99W

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Jul 2, 2012 #561 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    Hey, I guess the old gal is going to get a new lease on life. Though maybe with someone else and for some other service.

    It was supposed to be headed for disposal first reported here back in early May.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=204856
     
  2. Jul 7, 2012 #562 of 3078
    Sixto

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    I've seen people talking about call centers for DirecTV and where they're located. I just called to find out about the loss of the Viacom channels and talked to a rep in Mexico. I asked "where are you located" and he said Mexico. I asked to talk to someone in the U.S. and he said he couldn't help me. I hung up and then called back and got a rep in Utah. He said he didn't even know DirecTV had call centers for the U.S. in Mexico. I've been with DirecTV since 1999 and have always talked to someone in the U.S. when calling customer service until now. When I pay my $160 a month (not including Sunday Ticket) it's nice to know that DirecTV is doing all they can to keep my bill "low" by exporting jobs to Mexico!!! God Bless the USA!!!!
     
  5. Jul 13, 2012 #565 of 3078
    HarleyD

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    You joined just to express this?

    I'm not sure that there is a forum where this "belongs" but it definitely doesn't belong in this thread. This is for discussing the actual satellites themselves.

    Welcome to dbstalk.
     
  6. Jul 13, 2012 #566 of 3078
    inkahauts

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    I wonder if they are getting s Mary calls they are having their Mexico call centers help out with its us operations so you don't have to wait extra long on to get through to someone. Would seem a bit odd though, since I doubt they'd be trained on the particulars of us dtv operations. I had never heard of them having call centers there either. Are you sure he didn't say new Mexico?

    Edit: just realized what thread this is in. Not really the right place for it...
     
  7. Jul 24, 2012 #567 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Really what's in it for Spectrum 5? I never heard of them. How much is Charlie paying them?
     
  10. Aug 1, 2012 #570 of 3078
    James Long

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    Not Charlie. Spectrum 5 has gone up against DISH's plans as well. They are the reason why DISH cannot get the final two transponders at 61.5. Gotta leave the door open for "new entrants".
     
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    Thanks for posting. Saw that last week, then forgot to post. Thx.
     
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    bobnielsen

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    I remember back when the Space Shuttle was in the planning stages, there was interesting in using it to retrieve dead sats. Of course it ended up not being able to reach geosyncronous altitudes, but Hughes was asked by NASA to propose what testing might be done if one could be recovered.
     
  18. Sep 3, 2012 #578 of 3078
    P Smith

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    It would be highly troublesome - a couple things would be very considerable: huge solar panels what probably used one time deployment mechanism with lifetime locks/latches and big antennas ; adding to that - each satellite would be required unique 'bed' and holding 'straps' to safely bring it back to Earth ...
     
  19. Sep 4, 2012 #579 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    The whole idea of reusing or harvesting dead satellites, whether in GSO or even LEO, is just pie in the sky dreaming for the current generation (and probably the next two or three). Aerospace engineering is always a cutting-edge compromise between terrifically high energy requirements and very low mass-margins. It takes a LOT of energy to accelerate something to orbit in the first place. So even launching the simplest LEO satellite is on the order of several millions of dollars, unless it's a very minimal "microsat" hitching a ride up using excess capacity on a launcher for another payload. GSO launches are substantially more - in the range of a hundred million dollars or more, exclusive of the cost of the satellite. And once in orbit, every maneuver costs fuel, more of that precious, expensive launch mass you're paying so much to accelerate up to such high speeds.

    Bringing anything down means the reverse: all that energy you've added to the system has to be depleted, either by using a lot of fuel to slow down quickly, or by sliding through the friction of the atmosphere (which creates heat on the order of several thousand degrees over 20 - 30 minutes of entry. That means you need a heat shield - more mass that is useless in orbit until you need it to return. There's been work done on inflatable heat shields. Perhaps one could tele-operate a harvester to clip off the deployed antennas and solar arrays, then strap the hulk to a module with a deployable heat shield and parachute array - but what's the point? The components will be old and obsolescent at best. The real costs of a satellite are in design and construction labor, not the materials. That, plus the expense of the launch, which you'd have to re-incur even if you could retrieve and refurbish the satellite in the first place. And those large PV arrays and antennas, cut free and floating up above GSO in the graveyard orbit, will be harder to track and avoid than a single, intact dead satellite.

    If launch costs were a fraction of what they are today, the whole idea might make some kind sense but as it is, it's just a blue-sky brainstorming project.
     
  20. Sep 4, 2012 #580 of 3078
    Laxguy

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    So these dang things have the same defect of iPads and iPhones: no user replaceable batteries.....:D
     

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