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DIRECTV Satellite Discussion D-14 @99W

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Sixto, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. Dec 14, 2012 #601 of 3078
    LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    No one's posted this, so I guess we're slacking off. Directv's application to launch and operate Directv 14 for the 99ºW slot was granted, as of 10 days ago.

    http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws...=V_SITE_ANTENNA_FREQ.file_numberC/File+Number

    (Apologies in advance if the URL gets fubar'd. The FCC's website is NOT link-friendly).

    You can click the "Other Filings" link on the page and get the actual FCC grant document. There are interesting tidbits buried inside - for instance, it confirms that Directv 14 and Directv RB-1 (already authorized BSS bird) will be separate payloads on the same physical spacecraft at 99.235ºW. It also requires that Directv 14 be on-station and operational prior to the end of service of Spaceway 2, else the authorization is voided. I found that an intriguing requirement - is SW2 in danger of early failure? Is Directv planning to move it? Hmm.
     
  2. Dec 14, 2012 #602 of 3078
    Sixto

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    Yep, slacking off, good stuff.
     
  3. Dec 14, 2012 #603 of 3078
    RAD

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    OK, I've lost track, what's the guess for when this goes up?
     
  4. Dec 14, 2012 #604 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    dpeters11

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  6. Dec 14, 2012 #606 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    "Early 2014" is the closes I've seen it nailed down. Some other unofficial Arianespace launch calendars show a few other "early 2014" launches ahead of this one, so I'll take it all with a grain of salt until the satellite ships from the manufacturer to the launch site. A lot can happen in the next 14 months. After all, ANOTHER Proton failed just a week or so ago, which is gonna scramble ILS's calendar and backlogs. Arianespace hasn't had a major problem in awhile - hope the statistics don't catch up to them between now and then. :)
     
  7. Dec 14, 2012 #607 of 3078
    Go Beavs

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    Maybe it's just a formality. They require DIRECTV 14 to be operational before DIRECTV 11 ends service as well. :shrug:
     
  8. Dec 14, 2012 #608 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    Or at least regarding that its TT&C operations need be, whatever that means ...

    Under item 10.

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  9. Dec 14, 2012 #609 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    Are they now calling it "RB-14" instead of "RB-1" (call sign S2711) nowadays?
     
  10. Dec 14, 2012 #610 of 3078
    hdtvfan0001

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    Could be...I was thinking there might be some kind of operational limit to the number of units in that general location up there or something like that.
     
  11. Dec 14, 2012 #611 of 3078
    LameLefty

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    Nope, sorry. That was a typo on my part. I'll fix it in my earlier post.
     
  12. Dec 14, 2012 #612 of 3078
    hdtvfan0001

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    No worries....most of us rely on information from a known Rocket Scientist on these things anyway. ;)
     
  13. Dec 14, 2012 #613 of 3078
    HoTat2

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    Or perhaps it has to due with the grant of allowing non-standard operating frequencies for TT&C to D14 described in item 8 caused by logjam at the normal TT&C frequency assignments already being used by SW2 and D11.

    If D11 is no longer occupying the normal TT&C frequencies by the time D14 starts using the non-standard ones, there is then no need for the non-standard frequency grant waiver listed under item 8.

    I guess ...
     
  14. Dec 14, 2012 #614 of 3078
    Go Beavs

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    That sounds pretty reasonable, but we are dealing with a government agency here so... :lol:
     
  15. Dec 14, 2012 #615 of 3078
    inkahauts

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    Wonder if they aren't planning on using the space ways for non us stuff, since one of them is now doing Puerto Rico I believe. Maybe they will move the other to Latin America? Who knows?
     
  16. Dec 14, 2012 #616 of 3078
    Gary Toma

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    Check the current TPN Maps. Puerto Rico is being treated as a new giant DMA (it is actually an SMA). This is Market #213 on the LIL TPN tab. It is a huge Market of over 3 Million 'TV Households' ( that's the Nielsen term). Note that both SW1 and SW2 are pressed into service here.

    That 'domestic' service from the two SW sats goes live in Puerto Rico this coming week, with the free installation of what we think will be Slimline 3 dishes.

    When the Puerto Rico transition is complete, bandwidth on G3C will then be freed up for Latin coverage. And we have already posted the Beam Footprint maps for Intelsat-30, which will be totally dedicated to Directv-Latin-America (DLA).
     
  17. Dec 14, 2012 #617 of 3078
    inkahauts

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    I knew they where using one of the sw sats for that, didn't realize they where going to be using both. Do we think that's all they will be doing going forward? If so, that does seem to free up a lot of room for d14 and d15 I'd think.
     
  18. Dec 15, 2012 #618 of 3078
    Gary Toma

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    Just my personal thought: The SW sats wiill both be quickly de-loaded of their US Domestic load to D14 and D15. The D14 and D15 will carry on the Domestic load and Domestic growth load.

    SW1 and SW2 will be pressed immediately into DLA Service.

    The numbers are staggering. The US Domestic DMAs without HD LIL or SD LIL service comprise some 670,000 'Households'. The numbers of households begging for service in the DLA area is in the tens of millions of households. Growth opportunities in SKY_MEX are profound. The US Market is saturated; the Latin and SKY-MEX markets is where the growth and the revenue increases are waiting.
     
  19. Dec 16, 2012 #619 of 3078
    harsh

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    Ignoring the flexible beam targeting capability of the Spaceway birds, either one of the new satellites should have the spot beam capacity of SW1 and SW2 combined.

    Spending targetable beams on an area half again the size or Maryland seems like a waste.
     
  20. Dec 16, 2012 #620 of 3078
    HarleyD

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    Unless you no longer require the targeting capability. In that case it would be a waste not to use the available bandwidth wherever is needed. And if that need exists in a market with the potential for explosive growth then all the better.
     

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