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DIRECTV Transponder Map: New Data 3/30/2011

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Gary Toma, Mar 23, 2011.

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  1. Mar 30, 2011 #41 of 108
    georule

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    At some level I have to wonder if it wouldn't be more price-performant to just give the powerline networking kit away for free (well, as a lease that has to be returned when you leave D*) instead of using highly expensive satellite bandwidth this way.
     
  2. Mar 30, 2011 #42 of 108
    Sixto

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    Yes, saw those, those seem to be the older method for DVR reserved space recordings. 9981 is there, which is where I see my reserved space recordings are coming from.
     
  3. Mar 30, 2011 #43 of 108
    Doug Brott

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    You do realize your getting angry over speculation, don't you?
     
  4. Mar 30, 2011 #44 of 108
    paulh

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    Is this a pure technical limitation to the satellite? I don't think Ka has to be limited to a specific transponder size. And push may benefit from "massive" transponders.
     
  5. Mar 30, 2011 #45 of 108
    P Smith

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    Seems to me the big PUSH on D12 is not begin yet, those notes do shows intention to use the free bandwidth according your DVR's info.
     
  6. Mar 30, 2011 #46 of 108
    P Smith

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    Yes, we are talking about D10/D11/D12 with known tpn map where each tp taking 36 MHz. Best case when [a few] tpn using 30 Msps 8PSK LDPC 2/3, that values is going up to 58 Mbps.
     
  7. Mar 30, 2011 #47 of 108
    georule

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    I don't think he does. :) The "respect" thing can cut in both ways. Sixto, Dr. J, P, etc get such respect that some people don't necessarily "get" the joy they have in informed speculation rising from teasing out little details.

    But this is the forum to do it in. As much as I celebrate the democracy of places like DBSTalk, how very much poorer we would all be if the "local intellegentsia" couldn't also use it to speculate based on incomplete data without fear of setting off a popular firestorm just from kicking the theoretical can around. . .
     
  8. Mar 30, 2011 #48 of 108
    Hutchinshouse

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    Why am I not surprised.... :nono2::lol:
     
  9. Mar 30, 2011 #49 of 108
    Sixto

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    One thing seems fairly clear, DirecTV has a current use planned for those 4 transponders, assuming of course that this latest data is valid, which it certainly appears to be.

    Maybe it's a temporary use, because bandwidth is plentiful, maybe it's permanent, but it certainly maybe demonstrates that they're just not wasting that space in the interim.

    Still also the mystery as to what they're using transponder 20 for. :)
     
  10. Mar 30, 2011 #50 of 108
    P Smith

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    If I would take educated guess I would say - similar way to 21-24. :)
     
  11. Mar 31, 2011 #51 of 108
    Sixto

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    It does look like there might be another 6 channels in that 828 PID for TP19. 8755-8761,8771. Upon manual look.
     
  12. Mar 31, 2011 #52 of 108
    P Smith

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    I can't find such numbers in the PID from 101W tp10 and tp19 ...

    Umm, I see the numbers in place before normal ch# what usually eq 0000. Then next word there is that known ch# 2701h ie 9985.
    Actually, the PID is full of records of some services (not channels as we could parse) in a range 1000-2000, but I didn't get anyone from DVR by FA83 cmds.

    From bin: ch1001: "ADVANCED SERVICES HOMEPAGE AND GUIDE BANNER TEST CHANNEL 1","DIRECTV ON DEMAND TEST CHANNEL 1". Check your DVR for it.
     
  13. Mar 31, 2011 #53 of 108
    harsh

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    It might unless they move the NFLST-like sports channels to the push slots and cut way back on the CinemaHD channels.
     
  14. Mar 31, 2011 #54 of 108
    Sixto

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    The projection is only relative to totally free and clear available space on D12, bandwidth that's appears to be totally unutilized on D12. There's obviously many other ways to optimize space if they so desired.
     
  15. Mar 31, 2011 #55 of 108
    inkahauts

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    Does anyone have the full raw data from say, 3 months ago, so they could look and see if these channels where being used like this then? 6 months ago? one year ago?
     
  16. Mar 31, 2011 #56 of 108
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    AT&T U-Verse will cap the download usage starting next month. I wonder if all this PPV talk can cause billions of bits to be downloaded to my DVRs without my consent or the communication will only be satellite-receiver.
     
  17. Mar 31, 2011 #57 of 108
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    I do and will.
    May take a few days to "check" the data.

    Doctor j
     
  18. Mar 31, 2011 #58 of 108
    LameLefty

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    Interesting new findings, folks. Thanks for your hard work. :)
     
  19. Mar 31, 2011 #59 of 108
    HoTat2

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    +1 as well ...

    Though I admit to struggling to understand some of the esoteric technical language from Sixto, P. Smith, and doctor j., such as "parsing" this or that "bin_xxxx file" or what "PID" contains such and such information. :)
     
  20. Mar 31, 2011 #60 of 108
    P Smith

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    Got a word from doctor J : New PUSH came between 7/25/2010 and 8/4/2010
     
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