DIRECTV Transponder Map: New Data 3/30/2011

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  1. Apr 1, 2011 #81 of 108
    Curtis0620

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    I never had my DVR connected to the Internet. I set up Ben Hur, so let's see what happens.
     
  2. Apr 1, 2011 #82 of 108
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    That sounds like a good test to me. :)
     
  3. Apr 1, 2011 #83 of 108
    Sixto

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    Thanks for testing.

    Yep, I continue to be skeptical, but supposedly it's either functional, or will be.

    You receiver would need to have a phone line attached, or order on the web, so that the system can handle billing.

    Here's the instructions: http://support.directv.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1595/~/ordering-directv-cinema™-and-pay-per-view

    And it does not mention any requirement for an internet connection, other then you get access to many more titles if you have an internet connection.
     
  4. Apr 1, 2011 #84 of 108
    georule

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    Well, Ben Hur was a nice choice. I feel comfortable that isn't a pre-load to the reserve area.

    If this works for Curtis, I may start a Ben Hur download via internet, pull the router connection part way thru and see what happens then. :D

    I'm curious just how robust/mature this is (if it exists) --can it start an internet download and finish as a satellite download if the content comes 'round again on the round-robin before the internet download finishes?

    This is relatively new capability. While it may be that D* software developers are total studs, the likelihood is it is still "work in progress" on the robustness front. . .
     
  5. Apr 1, 2011 #85 of 108
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    Btw, while I'm very ambivalent about liking this (if they're doing it), what a great way to have redundancy if you suffer a micro-meteorite or something that takes out a bird. . . the question would be can PPV financially prove out ROI-wise to support a whole satellite over time. . .
     
  6. Apr 1, 2011 #86 of 108
    Sixto

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    There's also now some feedback that there's not real content actually transmitting, so tough to know whether this is a now thing or a coming thing. But supposedly there is or will be a capability to do the 400 from the satellite. Just trying to piece through the breadcrumbs as they present themselves.
     
  7. Apr 1, 2011 #87 of 108
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    Appreciate you following the breadcrumbs. ;):D
     
  8. Apr 2, 2011 #88 of 108
    Sixto

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    Yep, hard to know at this point, until we find a case where satellite VOD actually works.

    There's input that it's designed to work, and the recording will arrive via satellite within a few days, and then there's other input that nothing is transmitting presently.

    Unclear of whether "designed to work" is a capability now or later, and whether "not transmitting" means it's just not been checked at the right time.

    So we wait for confirmation ...

    But there's certainly some hint of possibility due to the guide data labeling.
     
  9. Apr 2, 2011 #89 of 108
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    I am going to do the same thing, but I think the first thing to do is make sure the receiver doesn't thin it is hooked up to the internet. I will reset all my network defaults first. I am afraid that the internet connection right take priority over the sat downloads.... I hope one day the figure out how to set up all the downloads off sat, even if it takes 2-3 weeks for all of the shows to be available, as well as doing it via the internet. Would help for those with caps....
     
  10. Apr 2, 2011 #90 of 108
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    I actually think your wrong about that.. Why wouldn't it work without phone and internet, at least for the download? I think they are putting all these 400 titles in a hidden guide in the system, and basically, the dvr knows when it will be available off of one of the hidden pushed channels, and it will record it at the next opportunity on one of the pushed channels, or eve a PPV channel if its on one of those channels. No need to tell directv you are going to record it. NOW, at some point, if you aren't connected to the phone line or Ethernet, then you will have a billing issue in the future.

    I have a unit I can disconnect from phone and internet and see what happens with. I'll let you know. I will see how many programs I can get into the que..


    What I really want to know is if they are pushing say 5 shows at a time off of a transponder, or if they have figured out how to dump one movie at a time per transponder, at high speed and have each movie take only a few mins to download. The advantage to that would be they would actually be able to use ALL bandwidth for each transponder, and taking less time means that an individuals receiver wouldn't need to be free for as long as if it takes a full 2 hours or so to download a movie.

    Guess we know for sure why Double play is not always active though, huh? :D
     
  11. Apr 2, 2011 #91 of 108
    Sixto

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    You are correct, I meant to refer to billing. Corrected my post.
     
  12. Apr 2, 2011 #92 of 108
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    Yeah, I'd still be worried about them caching the guide data locally based on when it *was* connected to the internet. From a development standpoint, that algorithm could be anywhere from very robust to not so much (at least yet). Every time you call up 1100 it could try to ping home via internet and if it doesn't get a response only show you satellite programs. On the other hand, it could have a regular schedule to flush and refresh the cache for the guide data driven by your system status (internet or not) when the refresh takes place. If it is new capability, counting on its robustness in the back-end is risky business.
     
  13. Apr 2, 2011 #93 of 108
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    Funny, I just decided to flush all my guide data right now after I told the unit I am going to test to reset network connections.. SO I may not even be able to select anything to record till tomorrow.. Guess well see i a bit!
     
  14. Apr 2, 2011 #94 of 108
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    In those "PUSH" notes we can see 6 streams per transponder.
     
  15. Apr 2, 2011 #95 of 108
    georule

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    Hmmph. Which looks suspiciously like the five HD + 1 SD setup they are using on some other D12 transponders.
     
  16. Apr 2, 2011 #96 of 108
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    Update

    Nothing yet. I do have a phone line connected.

    Still sitting in the queue.
     
  17. Apr 2, 2011 #97 of 108
    Sixto

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    Very curious to see how your situation plays out over the next few days.

    Again, there's conflicting info, have definite feedback that the process is in place to do satellite VOD (delivered within days), but then other feedback that there's not actual real data transmitting when checked.

    Haven't had the ability the verify that the satellite VOD is "now" vs "future", and the bandwidth checking was a spot check vs continuous.

    So a testing we will go ... :)
     
  18. Apr 2, 2011 #98 of 108
    P Smith

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    Some indication is cue us - the VOD start spooling from satellite last night.
     
  19. Apr 2, 2011 #99 of 108
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    It certainly says. . . something. . . that non-internet connected customers have those items available to them in the guide in the first place. Hardly "best practices" to show them that content and let them think they've ordered it if it will never be fulfilled and there is no clear message to them on the screen that an internet connection is required.
     
  20. Apr 2, 2011 #100 of 108
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    Is it possible that these 4 transponders with PUSH data in the PID have anything to do with the RB-2A ("BSS") transponders mentioned in the "SixtoReport: D12 Satellite info" and QUOTING:
    Named RB-2A for "BSS" payload on D12
    18 transponders (TP1-TP18) of spot beam bandwidth for "niche services" from 102.765°
    Supporting 4 spot beams to the "western U.S."


    I don't understand what the intended use of the BSS system is for, but it made me think of it when the PUSH mystery appeared.
     
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