DirecTV Viacom Carriage Updates

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  1. Mar 20, 2019 #21 of 105
    mjd180

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    Well, it’s good in that way. But it’s bad in how crude/primitive it is in implementation. Instead of re-sizing the on-screen picture, it just superimposes/blankets out the bottom quarter of the picture (for a couple of munutes, every couple of minutes). I’m not sure Viacom could make it much more visually distracting if they wanted...

    Update: “whack-a-mole” officially begins! Now Viacom is switching the crawl to the top of the screen to temporarly hindering AT&T from its inconsistent/“ham-fisted” attempts at censoring the message content.

    Update 2: now that AT&T has “conttoned on” to the wicked smart top of the screen change, I womder what’s next? Alternating? Dead center? :grinning:

    Rich ***holes playing childish games with each other...
     
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  2. Mar 20, 2019 #22 of 105
    mjd180

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    DirecTV had a bad negotiation history with Viacom before AT&T. Throw in the Warner media acquistion & Viacom’s PR trashing AT&T’s practices from every possible angle (including highly dubious ethnic diversity accusations), & I would have to agree with you.

    IMO, this will be worse than 2012 (10 day blackout & “split the difference” where Viacom gets 50% of last offer/demand)...
     
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  3. Mar 20, 2019 #23 of 105
    ejbvt

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    Oh boy... an opportunity to negotiate a much lower bill. Hopefully the channels don't go away for more than a day or two.
     
  4. Mar 20, 2019 #24 of 105
    mitchflorida

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    I don't watch a single Viacom channel, so this will not affect me at all. Viacom is lowest common denominator programming.
     
  5. Mar 20, 2019 #25 of 105
    slice1900

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    The channels that really control the rate increases are the ones with sports, i.e. the locals and Disney/ESPN. No way the Viacom channels are more than a buck or two a month.

    My cable provider is up to $14.95 a month for locals...they need to offer an LCC!
     
  6. Mar 20, 2019 #26 of 105
    James Long

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    And yet they did. :)

    DIRECTV should get another provider's receiver set up at their uplink center for each of the networks. They have the right to rebroadcast the signals - if the contract does not explicitly say they must receive the signal via the authorized addressable receiver why not? :D
     
  7. Mar 20, 2019 #27 of 105
    James Long

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    Cable would need a change in law first as (for cable companies) carrying local stations is required. (Number of locals required based on a percentage of total channel count and limited to stations who can provide a usable signal to the cable headend/local receive point.) The cable company could choose not to carry individual channels that charge too much ... but that decision would need to be made for the entire system. The expensive locals can not be sold a la carte or in a tier separate from the other locals.
     
  8. Mar 20, 2019 #28 of 105
    slice1900

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    So this sounds like a perfect example of why Directv & Dish may NOT want the laws governing locals to be the same between cable and satellite. Cable may have an advantage when it comes to stuff like significantly viewed stations, but I think at this point they are MUCH better off retaining the option to not provide locals.

    The more expensive locals become, the bigger advantage satellite will have over cable, at least for customers able to pick up their locals OTA (which is probably most of them) assuming they discount you some/all of the locals charge (and Directv gets the LCC officially launched)

    This is why I thought Directv should have started breaking out the locals charge years ago. Let people know how quickly it goes up, and some of the anger at yearly rate increases would be directed elsewhere. And give them an easy way to show people the discount they would get for using the LCC.
     
  9. Mar 20, 2019 #29 of 105
    dod1450

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    Found this on the keepviacom web site.
    Phone Tips
    Call AT&T-DIRECTV today and tell them you want to keep the channels you enjoy and pay for!

    Use these tips to best reach a customer service agent to voice your concern.

    Call 888-250-5557.

    After the brief message, provide the phone number associated with your account.

    For fastest connection to a representative, when prompted, say “Change Package”
    (This will NOT automatically make any changes to your account. It is the quickest way to get through to a live representative.)

    If the system does not recognize your phone number, tell them your account number.
     
  10. Mar 20, 2019 #30 of 105
    James Long

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    How about making it the same by allowing cable to sell locals separately? (That will never happen.)

    At this point I'd say must carry for all broadcast stations with predicted coverage of a community or in that market but have the fees set by statutory rates (copyright office). If the goal is to serve communities and still pay for retransmission that seems to be a good compromise.

    It has no chance of happening but I can dream. :)
     
  11. Mar 20, 2019 #31 of 105
    joshjr

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    I work for another provider and its on our channel for them as well. We are not in a dispute with them either and not a satellite provider either. I believe I heard that they did give us an option on how to make it go away though.
     
  12. Mar 20, 2019 #32 of 105
    mitchflorida

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    Just to be fair, here is Viacom's customer service phone number:

    212-258-6000.

    Call them up and complain about the high payments they are demanding while their viewership goes down 40%. And Trever Noah is no John Stewart, by the way.
     
  13. Mar 20, 2019 #33 of 105
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    Like them or not, they still have the highest rated channels and programs on cable every week. Articles cherry picking percentage based comparison ratings out of context are just as bad as articles claiming the sky is falling on ESPN's subscriber count as if that only applies to ESPN, ignoring that the subscriber counts for every other channel is falling nearly as much since outside of cutting the cord entirely or dropping to a barebones package, it's impossible to drop to an ESPN-less package without affecting the subscriber counts of tons of other channels at the same time. It also doesn't help that subscribers of OTT services like DTVnow, Sling, Hulu, Vue, YouTube, weren't included in Nielsen's estimates that have been traditionally used to provide subscriber counts.

    Yet his viewership numbers are doing better worldwide for Viacom than Jon ever did. Also, Jon and Craig Kilbourne weren't the same either. Like Trevor, Jon initially started out just being like the previous host and reusing their bits before bringing his own spin to the show. I don't know if you watched any of the stream they had of all his episodes before he left, but outside of Lewis Black, his first few years was nothing like the show that airs today, and he really had a rough time after Craig took back the rights to his bits for the Late Late Show so he had to experiment on new things until a certain major event abruptly changed the direction of the show.
     
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  14. Mar 20, 2019 #34 of 105
    theloudhouse5

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    Viacom is now showing the message covering the entire screen during commercials to stop Direct TV.
     
  15. Mar 20, 2019 #35 of 105
    dod1450

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    Directv is blacking out the message block where ever it is located on the screen. This sure feels like two babies playing a game.
     
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  16. Mar 20, 2019 #36 of 105
    mjd180

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    Absolutely disgraceful.

    You have to love the large black box taking up the entire middle third of the left (& now right side, instead - hey, lets try dead center next) of The Daily Show. I would like to blame some of this on the current state of manners/discourse in our country as a whole, but that’s being too generous to both of these corporate morons.

    I wish someone in the media could shame them (even just a little)...
     
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  17. Mar 20, 2019 #37 of 105
    noahproblem

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    I see D* has added a Kids Mix (Channel 199) - "shockingly" w/o any Nick channels. I seem to remember they did this during the last Viacom dispute.

    Looks like this one's going to last a while.
     
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  18. Mar 21, 2019 #38 of 105
    JoeTheDragon

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    good it's a long time till south park is back.

    They seem to have boomerang tv with DD in the mix but the full channel is still MPEG 2 with NO DD.
     
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  19. Mar 21, 2019 #39 of 105
    Eva

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    Looks like ATT and Viacom acting like little children.
     
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  20. Mar 21, 2019 #40 of 105
    theloudhouse5

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    And on the guide they put banners advertising it only near the Nick Channels and not near the others, that's another sign.
     
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