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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    It is amazing how much people feel they can not live without certain tv stations anymore. When I was born these tv stations didn't exist and in most cases you only had your local OTA stations to watch. TV programs you feel can't live without know in most cases were not even thought of back then. People need to start realizing their is life beyond TV and that TV or even the internet for that matter shouldn't be the center of all of our attention. The fact is that sooner or later the government is going to have to start making some new rulings to help smooth this process over. I suspect that this is when ala carte will really gain some steam. I do feel for those missing these channels, but it is not the end of the world. Your time would be better spent learning something, reading a book, or even exercising.
     
  2. Xsabresx

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    Actually, reality shows are notoriously cheap to produce. For a show that is as big of a hit as Jersey Shore (regardless of what you think of it, it is a huge hit) is, $175K (Pauly D's salary) per episode is comparatively light. That is why so many reality shows have popped up in the last few years. They are dirt cheap to make.
     
  3. Xsabresx

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    Personally, I am tired of this opinion. "when I was born......." Right when many of us were born we only had the big 3 networks plus a single independent. It was also free. Today, many of us are paying upwards of $200/mo for service (because that is what we choose to spend our money on) and when you remove 17 channels suddenly the value drops. Can we live without those channels? Dont be stupid, of course we can. We choose not to and I am sick of people's condescending tone throughout this thread over our choices.
     
  4. mystro

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    Panasonic Plasma 65 with the OTA Clearstream 2 antenna is a higher resolution picture in HD and SD. Panasonic has a picture quality statistic you can pull up in the menu.
    Call a local TV station and talk to one of the broadcast engineers if you want more info.
     
  5. davring

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    DirecTV rebroadcasts your local OTA HD station in exactly the same resolution, but at a lower bit rate.
     
  6. Mariah2014

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    You really won't mind paying around 300 or more for what you get now in the not so distant future then because if things keep up the way they are going that is exactly where it will end up. Secondly, we wouldn't be going through this situation right now if everyone could these types of increases all time from all of the different companies supplying Directv and other TV providers.
     
  7. RunnerFL

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    Sorry, "not as compressed". Better?
     
  8. davring

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    I know you understand, but some folks think broadcast is uncompressed.
     
  9. spiketoo

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    I can chime in just a tad on the initial HD rollout - FWIW.

    Got a first-gen Mits HD RPTV back in 2000. Way before they even decided on the HDMI standard - connection was VGA to BNC and DTV offered the only STB initially.

    Only fare in 2000 was HDNET (few sports and endless loops of penguins in HD) and a rare ESPN telecast as they were trying to get a grip on the technology. After that, its kinda blurry...
     
  10. Mark Holtz

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    This is where I sit on things....

    Television, as a whole, has very little compelling content for me to watch anymore. Does anyone remember the writers strike of 2008? As more and more shows ran out of episodes, I started deleting the season passes off my DVR. That way, I needed to make the effort to put them back on when new episodes came on.

    Most did not make the cut.

    I am not a sports fan. Yet, I pay for E$PN and the Regional Sports Networks. Those are notoriously the highest per-subscriber cost on the basic tier.

    My music interests lie in Big Band, Classical, and Jazz. Thus, MTV, VH1, and CMT aren't even on my radar.

    Children's programming? I have no kids. And while I have watched Cartoon Network, the amount of fresh Anime (Japanese Animation) is down to nothing, and all anime is on Saturday nights.

    News programming? Don't make me laugh. I get my news from the Internet, not from television.

    Movies? Sorry, folks, but the last time I looked at the "premiums", they do not show the movies in their original aspect ratio. I'm what they call a film snob. The only movie channel that I watch is TCM, and even that has been quite a while. While I am comfortable with letterbox and pillarbox, I inevitably zoom in with windowbox, which is what is currently happening with TCM SD on my 16:9 set. Hopefully, this will change with TCM-HD. Watching movies on the other, regular channels results in frustration as the content is further edited for time.

    New programming? I am almost hesitant to invest my time in developing an interest in a new show. Alcatraz on Fox sounded interesting, and had one of my favorite actors from Lost. Yet, that show promptly tanked, it quickly went to "Certain Cancellation" lists, and no one was surprised when it was cancelled. On The Fly and Shipping Wars were both amusing, but nothing to rush home for.

    So, what does that leave me? I watched, this past year, Mythbusters, Ice Road Truckers, Storm Chasers (believed cancelled), Top Shot (no fifth season ordered), Undercover Boss, Unchained Reaction (believed cancelled), and The Amazing Race. (Didn't I watch some Doomsday survivor series on National Geographic, and didn't even last the first episode?) Out of all of these, which one has compelling content that should be watching?

    Funny how none of the shows listed are on Viacom channels.

    My current system setup is 1 SD Receiver +2 HD DVRs. I have a legacy Choice Xtra Classic package. Even after discounts, I still pay $90 per month. If it were just me, I would cancel the service because the cost-benefit ratio is out of whack. However, because I rent a house and share it, my rental agreement (which is slightly unusual) has me paying actual rent, DirecTV, ISP, and cell phone service. The landlord has told me that if I were to cancel DirecTV, then my rent goes up $100. And what does the landlord watch? History channel, Discovery Channel, Travel Channel, HGTV. None of them are Viacom.

    Sometimes, I wonder if the quantity of channels was all that great of an idea. It was somewhat better than when we had just five channels, and we had a dedicated channel for more niche programming. It is also great to have two or three opportunities to watch a program within the same week. But, some of the specialty is gone when we have channels that have blended programming. Anyone remember watching BlackAdder on Arts and Entertainment? How about Junkyard Wars on The Learning Channel? As much as I like Ice Road Truckers, how much does that do with History?

    This isn't like previous years of television where all you can do is what was is currently being broadcast. People time shift their shows, or even purchase their shows on DVD or BluRay, free from the logos and banners reminding you of the show you are watching, be sure to watch another sure, and join the Twitter channel. I believe that television has gone from entertainment, and starting to resemble work. And, I am one of those people who actually enjoys what they do on a daily basis.

    I consider myself in a fortunate situation. I know of friends who are good people who have not received raised in ages, who have had their hours cut or been furloughed without pay for a day or so each month. In terms of economic necessity, the Internet ranks higher than the television not only for entertainment, but also for paying the bills, submitting resumes, and working remotely.
     
  11. Xsabresx

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    But that wasnt your point. Your point ultimately was "but it is not the end of the world. Your time would be better spent learning something, reading a book, or even exercising."

    No one ever said "sign the deal, we dont care the cost". My point was simply that if I am upset over the loss of Viacom - and I am not nearly as upset as some, but that isnt the point - then it is ok to be upset about it and "go read a book" is not an acceptable resolution to the problem. Many of us have books and we read them. We exercise and go outside with our families too. When an MTV The Challenge comes on, damnit I want to watch it and I pay for service to allow me to do such and when that privilege is taken away it is upsetting. I want a deal to be signed where everyone wins (understanding that most liely wont happen). That doesnt mean I want to ultimately pay $300/mo for it
     
  12. Mariah2014

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    I agree and the fact we all get stuck in middle of this, especially the children, is really frustrating especially when we pay to receive something that they can't deliver on right now.
     
  13. studechip

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    I think much of what you perceive as condescending is a reaction to those, not necessarily you, that have an attitude of entitlement. Unfortunately it's a common thing these days. Of course, calling the poster you are quoting stupid may cause some to have an attitude, too.
     
  14. kmcnamara

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    This is my only problem with it. This can actually be great for DirecTV because they're receiving the same amount of $$$ from their subscribers while providing a reduced service level. However, they don't have to pay anything to Viacom during this time. The equitable thing would be for DirecTV subscribers to get some kind of prorated discount on their bills until this dispute is resolved. I'm sure that won't happen (There's probably a clause in our customer agreement about this).

    Ultimately, I don't want the programming providers to continue to gouge the service providers thus gouging us. So these disputes are OK with me in general.
     
  15. Mariah2014

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    This is why Directv has been telling people to contact them so they can see what they can do for you. As long as you are not someone who joined lately, they should be able to either discount what you have now give you something else in return for awhile.
     
  16. richzilla

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    So is there any movement towards any agreement ? Anyone hearing anything ?
     
  17. Mariah2014

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    Today's update, according to the directvpromise.com website is that they are making progress and that they will keep talking everyday tell they get an agreement.
     
  18. Shades228

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    There aren't any insiders that are going to post anything specific. When a deal is done everyone will hear it roughly the same time.

    http://www.directvpromise.com/ has been updated consistently through out this. You can also sub to the twitter and facebook pages of both companies.
     
  19. Drew2k

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    I'm honestly amazed that there is no prominent link to the "DIRECTV Promise" page on the DIRECTV home page. You have to scroll down to the "About DIRECTV" section to find a simple bullet for "DIRECTV Viacom Dispute" which goes to the "promise" site.
     
  20. richzilla

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    Thanks for the quick responses....

    So what will be the thing that tips the scales to get this deal done ?

    Is there a big event coming up or something of the sorts ?

    Similar to the UFC on VS. that helped get that deal done.

    Maybe if Dana White had the UFC on MTV or if teen mom was sponsored by them...we could get this done :)
     

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