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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    They probably want to keep Palladia in the HD Extra pack, possibly not being forced to get EPIX and/or keep it in a separate tier, and they might want keep the existing package structure with Viacom channels as it is. Nickelodeon and MTV channels are available in Entertainment and Choice, but for some of the other Nick* and MTV/VH1 channels you have to get Choice Extra or Ultimate.

    I think the twitter comment is regarding that. Viacom might want ALL of their channels in ALL packages, or they want to force DirecTV to carry channels they currently aren't carrying.

    And all that, besides the money of course, is also part of these negotiations I think. With previous contract negotiations, we have seen channels move to a higher tier. And perhaps that is how they recoup some of their money. After long and hard negotiations, they might say "we would only pay xx if we can move this and that channel to Choice Ultimate". That way it moves to a package that gets them more money, and it might entice SOME people to get Ultimate. Money.... although the primary reason for a dispute, is not the only reason.
  2. Jillxz

    Jillxz New Member

    Jul 15, 2012
    I agree. I care nothing for the new programs.
  3. Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    I don't give a fig about AMC, IFC, ETC.
  4. Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia

    I like most all of them myself... particularly HiC, HD, and TSM. RA35 is not bad, but mainly because I like some of the people in it...

  5. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    Would you subscribe to a service that didn't offer a smattering of Viacom channels?
    Because our respective providers are fighting the same battle on different fronts. To assume that this pissing match doesn't impact subscribers of other services is not something a thinking person should engage in.

    Of course it doesn't hurt that DIRECTV zealots have been so vociferous about this kind of dispute being entirely unique to DISH (or Time Warner if one counts themselves as a cable person).
  6. Pepe Sylvia

    Pepe Sylvia Legend

    May 10, 2010
    Yet. They have been on quite a shopping spree lately.
  7. APB101

    APB101 Icon

    Sep 1, 2010

    The statement has no substance: "Do you watch EVERY @Viacom channel? We're working so you only have to pay for the channels YOU watch — not all 17."

    I am one in however many of millions (whatever exact number) of subscribers. Let us not pretend, DirecTV, that we have a one-on-one relationship with the programming that is being carried.

    We are close to a week, now, without the Viacom channels; I hope it gets resolved during this week. I have in mind wanting more programming — including HD — than what he received prior to the disconnect. But, for whichever Viacom programming we would get, I hope DirecTV subscribers on this matter experience a return to normalcy this week.
  8. snowcat

    snowcat Legend

    May 29, 2007
    Probably because they make more a lot more money having all the different cable/satellite providers pay for them. If it was available online, even for a price, they won't get nearly the same amount of money.

    That is one of Dish's complaints about AMC. If fans of AMC shows can watch the episodes the next day after they are aired, why should Dish pay a lot to show them in the first place.
  9. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    I suspect that you and Adam aren't on the same page. He's promoting the idea that TVLand is built on its original programming (the stuff that you say that you don't care for).
  10. Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia
    While there is programming I'd like to catch up on, I'm perfectly fine waiting for however long it takes... even if goes into next year.

    Not that I want that to happen, but rather that I'd they get the best deal possible.

  11. ep1974

    ep1974 Legend

    May 22, 2010

    Just wondering if adding Epix is a stumbling block in these negotiations. Would like to see it added but still hope that Direct holds their ground for a fair resolution.
  12. darkpowrjd

    darkpowrjd Mentor

    Jul 10, 2012
    That's what I'm hoping it means, because to have DTV try to say that "they see no value in X or Y channel" like they did with G4, and to ask people who are on the internet (whose fingers type faster than their minds can think) what they want is rather scary. They should be asking their account holders, not random people on the internet, that one way or the other.
  13. PrinceLH

    PrinceLH New Member

    Feb 18, 2003
    Yes, they really do need to hold their ground on this one. Directv already had their issues with FOX, so if they buckle this time, it'll be seen as weakness. Since it is summer, and most people tend to not watch as much television, now is the time to make Viacom sweat. Maybe Directv finds alternative programming, like AntennaTV and or MeTV, to fill in some of the SD channels missing, due to Viacom. I'm not sure how many local markets carry these channels, in their locals, but maybe it would be viable, to give every subscriber a chance to pick up these feeds, since they're probably already being uplinked. If Disney was smart, they could allow Directv to free preview their lineup, for the summer, to steal some of Viacom's customers. One of these days, the satellite/cable providers will need to make a stand and cripple one of the media companies. Maybe today is the day, that the buck stops on these increases. Viacom needs to be taught a lesson.
  14. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    I do believe that the industry is going to see this, and learn a lesson. The big lesson being learned is that DirecTV isn't going to be bullied in to submission, and will go BLACK on the channels disputed if need be. Other media companies already know, right now, that you don't mess with DirecTV, and they will have to calculate their risk/rewards with channels being offline for some time.

    I heard the Viacom radio commercial this weekend by the way.... I took a transistor radio to a family members swimming pool. What a bunch of WHINERS they have become at Viacom.
  15. txfeinbergs

    txfeinbergs Legend

    Nov 15, 2005
    I agree with you, but if they hand it to their crack-jack team of DirecTV programmers - you know, the ones that take almost a year to develope a Nomad app for Android, it would take 20 years to get it done.
  16. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Yup....sure would.
    Then again, the approach taken by Charlie "Ebenezer" Ergen at Dish, TWC (mostly getting hit by local provider disputes and 1 other the past year), and DirecTV have been significantly different approaches, while garnering different results over time.

    The only common denominator among those providers is not getting into agreements that reflect extreme and greedy pricing models.
  17. underlord2

    underlord2 AllStar

    Dec 1, 2006
    I'd be ashamed if I was Viacom and act like this ON THE RADIO! I thought corporations are supposed to have a level of maturity higher than kindergarteners? :D
  18. Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia
    While I support DirecTV for as long as they need to keep the channels off, I would not! ;)

  19. Mark Holtz

    Mark Holtz Day Sleeper

    Mar 23, 2002
    Sacramento, CA
    You forget who their target audience is for Comedy Central, MTV, Spike, and Nick is.
  20. crashHD

    crashHD Godfather

    Feb 29, 2008
    It is very unimaginative to think this would be technically difficult to do.

    Prorating is not hard, but a simpler solution would be to refuse to prorate. If it sells a-la-carte, and the channel is $1/month, then when you buy that channel for a dollar, you have it for the whole month. For anything anyone sells, there is a minimum quanity. You can't go to mcdonalds and order half a hamburger, and no one is upset about that. Make the minimum service quantity a month. wasn't that easy?

    I would have no problem going through a webpage and picking which channels I want.

    For customers who don't use the internet, there are other ways than individually telling the CSR which channels they want over the phone. The capacity to order programming with the remote is something we have had for years.

    The argument it would be technically difficult to do this, just doesn't hold water. I better one is that it would be practically difficult to do so. I, and other customers like me, have the premier package, to get all the channels I want. If it were a-la-carte, I'd only have to buy about 25 channels. I would not pay $120/month plus mirror fees for 25 channels. They make more money this way

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