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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. susanandmark

    susanandmark Godfather

    Feb 15, 2007

    So which is it? Are Viacom channels are so worthless, crappy and over-priced that DirecTV doesn't need them to ever return and shouldn't pay 2 cents to get them back? Or are so many DirecTV customers regularly and habitually watching these channels that loss of this single provider's customer base can cause a channel's ratings to plummet?

    Can't have it both ways.
  2. tvropro

    tvropro AllStar

    Nov 3, 2010
    C band has a few things up it's sleeve that hasn't been released to the public yet. It may surprise some in the future.

    Getting back to DirecTv why can't Direct look at the alacarte model of C band and expand upon it for itself. Thats what we want from Direct don't we? We want to watch the tv channels we want at a fair price. How many actually watch more than maybe 10 or 20 in a package at the most. Let the consumer tailor the channels to their watching needs. If the programmers loose some of those junk channels because of ala cart or mini packs so what. It makes more sense to get good programming for your buck than some of that mindless crap on those subpar channels.
  3. tvropro

    tvropro AllStar

    Nov 3, 2010
  4. onan38

    onan38 Legend

    Jul 17, 2008
  5. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    20 million households are still 20 million households. That is a large percentage of TV households and will have an impact no matter if the ratings are high or low.

    Add: Nielsen says there are just under 115 million households. Directv is in 20 million. Or 17% of them. Of course, some have two services but directv still represents about 15% of all households. Assuming something linear among providers, it would mean the Viacom ratings would dip about 15%.
  6. Guesst925XTU

    Guesst925XTU Legend

    Jan 28, 2004
    We are a 4 person household with 2 HD DVRs and 2 HD receivers. I can honestly say that in the past year nobody has watched Palladia, Centric, Tr3s, CMT, Logo, VH1 Classic, TeenNick, Nick Jr., Spike, BET, VH1, TV Land or Comedy Central.

    If we lose the Viacom channels so be it, just don't raise our bill!!! Personally I would think it would be great if we could only pay for the channels we actually watch.
  7. AMike

    AMike Godfather

    Nov 21, 2005
    A disclaimer before I begin here: I do not watch any of the channels impacted nor do we have any children. We do not miss any of the channels, but fully understand those who do and hopefully this will be resolved soon.

    With that being said, one of the quirks of this blackout is for certain hotels that use DirecTV as their provider. I travel frequently for business and lately I've been traveling to spots not too far from Philly. At the hotel I'm staying at this week, they have a grand total of 28 channels (which is this day and time is a ridiculously low number as most hotels I stay at have 50 or more channels). Of those 28, 3 are Viacom channels (Nick, MTV, and Comedy Central). That's 11% of the channels offered at this hotel. Not that I'm going to watch those channels, since that's not really a destination for me, but it leaves us with 25 viewable channels here.

    I'm sure there are parents at this and other hotels that use D* having to explain to their kids why they can't watch Nick or MTV.
  8. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    Hears a old tick I used in the past look for hotels have cable / list we have 40/50+ channels (with the end of analog cable does work that well any more)

    Now we need more places with the directv residential experience.
  9. shendley

    shendley Hall Of Fame

    Nov 27, 2005
  10. android.cphone

    android.cphone AllStar

    Jan 10, 2012
    I am actually supprised that this has not yet been resolved. I am getting tired of peeping thru my neighbors windows to watch my favorite programs
  11. fleckrj

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    Sure you can. Viacom claims that 20% of DirecTV viewers watch their channels. That is a minority of the DirecTV customers, but it represents a large part of the Viacom viewership. so it does work both ways. DirecTV does not need Viacom, but Viacom needs DirecTV. The dispute will be resolved eventually, but there no reason for DirecTV to rush.
  12. yosoyellobo

    yosoyellobo Icon

    Nov 1, 2006
    Jacksonville Fl
    That was you. I almost got my shot gun.:)
  13. android.cphone

    android.cphone AllStar

    Jan 10, 2012
    South park just not as funny without sound would you kindly open your window and tilurn up the volume
  14. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    Jon Stewart just took Viacom to task for this whole debacle, and it's highly entertaining.
  15. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    John Stewart blasts his own company (Viacom), for pulling out on DirecTv and the internet, and even said when he woke up this morning "My 8 yr old son was watching Dark Knight Rises in 3D" in a direct reference to torrents. He has John Oliver at a DirecTv household, relaying the show to them in person. Its hilarious. You all need to hulu this one.
  16. wmb

    wmb Godfather

    Dec 17, 2008
    One things these makes clear is this dispute is the front line in the battle between content providers and content distributors. These channels are a significant part of DirecTV's offering and DirecTV is a significant part of Viacom's distribution. Clearly, both need each other. This is a test for both sides and will set the stage for the industry for years to come.
  17. mdavej

    mdavej Hall Of Fame

    Jan 30, 2007
    That's what I thought too at first. Then I started using an HTPC and Xbox extenders as my cable DVRs and got 8 tuner capability, a slick, sophisticated GUI, MRV, remote DVR management and remote viewing far superior to anything DirecTV has.

    So I got back all the channels I lost with Dish and potentially DirecTV, plus a killer DVR, all for a lot less money. Wouldn't work out for a big sports fans, but worked out great for me.
  18. ApeRan

    ApeRan New Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    I wonder if Viacom will allow the episode to be put online....I bet they will be dicks about it and keep it off the website as well as Hulu.
    If this is the case, I wonder how quickly it will show up on the internet anyway...
    I bet Colbert will skewer them as well.
  19. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

    Sep 16, 2006
    Im betting it will be on torrents within 15 minutes of the end of the show.
  20. android.cphone

    android.cphone AllStar

    Jan 10, 2012
    Keeep eye on u tube

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