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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Pepe Sylvia

    Pepe Sylvia Legend

    May 10, 2010
    Meh, up to a point. If you have a only have a minimal stake as part of a 401k, factoring in the increases, you're just taking money out of one pocket and putting it in the other.

    SPACEMAKER Freethinker

    Dec 11, 2007
    Mason, MI
  3. sdk009

    sdk009 Icon

    Jan 19, 2007
    Kihei, Maui, HI
    I watched the Daily Show & Colbert as it was shown at their regular time on my HR20-100 via the PlayOn software and an added script. It wasn't true HD, but it was on.
    So they can both keep their war-of-words going, it won't effect me.
  4. bones boy

    bones boy Godfather

    Aug 25, 2007
    Ultimately that is probably what you'll have - either via smartphone apps or channels on Roku or similar devices. If D* never brings the Viacom channels back, I'm sure a Viacom subscription-based app will appear somewhere shortly thereafter. And if that is successful other media companies might do the same. That is a-la-carte in the 21st century sense. And that could spell big trouble for D* in the long-term.
  5. zimm7778

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    The way things are right now, anything not involving loss is a good thing. Although losses to a certain point can be good I guess as long as things improve at some point. The lower the value the more your investment which increases every 2 weeks can increase when things recover. I really wish I had bought about $200 worth of SXM stock in 2008 when it plummeted to $.05 a share. It's still not doing gangbusters or anything but it would be a nice sum I'd be sitting on now.
  6. paulman182

    paulman182 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 4, 2006
    I believe someone should investigate the Stewart's household admitted viewing of pirated material.
  7. Pepe Sylvia

    Pepe Sylvia Legend

    May 10, 2010
  8. tvropro

    tvropro AllStar

    Nov 3, 2010
  9. mitchflorida

    mitchflorida Godfather

    May 18, 2009
    Time is on DTV's side. They have already been hit with tens of thousands of calls, have given everyone who asks $15 over three months . . they can just chill. It is at $2.30 a month now. Viacom wants $3.00. My guess is split the difference, $2.65, which is still too much .
  10. rlj1010

    rlj1010 Cool Member

    Mar 22, 2012
    Obviously, he was joking since TDKR is not even in 3D.
  11. Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    TV Land is on the Net as well.
  12. BattleScott

    BattleScott Hall Of Fame

    Aug 28, 2006
    That is really my hope for all of this. Once upon a time, the providers used to be the ONLY way to access content (non-FTA anyways) and they took full advantage of that. Now, with emerging on-line technology, apps, smart-tv's, MS Media, HMCs, Apple TV, etc. they are becoming less powerful and in many cases, stand in the way of that access. To be sure, they are still the most practical method today, but hopefully each one of these battles will drive the content owners a little bit closer to making the big move.
  13. Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia
    That's all well and good for the internets, but it doesn't matter to me personally.

  14. bobcamp1

    bobcamp1 Icon

    Nov 8, 2007
    So instead of giving Viacom $3/month, they're giving $5/month to their customers. Some people got free NFLST, a $200 value, or free Showtime for six months, or both.

    D* can't give away the freebies forever. Eventually they'll end up paying more than an average of $3/month to keep their customers. Time is ultimately on Viacom's side.

    FYI, "rumor" has it the final price will be $2.85. But no one knows about which channels will go into which packages yet.
  15. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    Jun 18, 2006
    By your reckoning, time is on Viacom's side, but when the next ratings book comes out Viacom will be in pain based on recent articles. Not to mention the amount they are not getting right now in retrans fees, which is somewhere between $20 million and $100 million a month depending on whose numbers you believe.

    One has to wonder how long Viacom will choose to take the loss on its channel portfolio.
  16. PrinceLH

    PrinceLH New Member

    Feb 18, 2003
    Not just that, but sponsors are going to start pulling ads or requiring rebates on their contracts, because their programming is not getting to 20 million households.
  17. 1948GG

    1948GG Icon

    Aug 4, 2007
    The problem is, the numbers don't really affect the 'broadcasters' simply because the ad rates, set by the Nielsen, are changed only...


    That means that no matter what the 'dailies' or any other ratings show, the 'broadcaster' simply gets s 'free ride' on whatever the viewership was, and the ad rates set, for several months no matter WHAT happens (up to and including the earth slipping out of it's orbit swinging into the sun).

    That's the upshot, the 'broadcasters' can wait out whoever they're dealing with until the next ratings period. Still collect their bonuses.

    So, the re-transmitters (DirecTV, Dish, Cable) need to go into the negotiations with a six-month strategy; tell their customer right up front that this is the way things are set up (the 'broadcasters' continue to rake in the cash 'skating' on their old viewership) and that it will take up to six months to actually put any pressure on them the other direction.

    Folks think that things are 'instantaneous' and they aren't. The 'broadcasters' use this fact to their advantage, period.
  18. PrinceLH

    PrinceLH New Member

    Feb 18, 2003
    If it becomes protracted, into a six month window, then Viacom becomes anxious. Even a 3 month delay would show in the next set of numbers. Ad rates would be affected, considering that 20 million households would not have access to the programming and commercial ads.

    Since Directv has started down this road, they should maintain their stance and make Viacom come back to the table and accept better terms.

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