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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. renbutler

    renbutler Godfather

    Oct 17, 2008
    Thanks for the chuckle, but I think you accidentally supported my point.

    Anyway, back on topic, let's stop worrying about how much profit corporations are making. Unless we're directly invested, or if they're doing something that directly breaks the law, that's not our business.
  2. Santi360HD

    Santi360HD Icon

    Oct 6, 2008
    New York City
    Bottom line Viacom was wrong for involving everyone in a dispute that doesnt involve everyone. I loved how Jon Stewart ripped them a new cornhole for it..I was all set for the torrent sites for my fix of Colbert & The Daily Show...that or camping out at my bar (I have both D* and Time Warner there). Reminds me of the OWS protestors here in NYC...very few had a collective message and alot of them were just nut jobs. Viacom and D* are just like those OWS protestors that shyte on police cars and said everyone has to die to get a message across..Viacom saw wrong only because they were called out..
  3. tulanejosh

    tulanejosh Godfather

    May 23, 2008
    the directvpromise.com posts have become a lot less optimistic lately. Friday and over the weekend, definitely gave the impression of progress, and this will be over soon. Monday, was more subdued, and Tuesday's gave absolutely no rays of sunshine.
  4. bobcamp1

    bobcamp1 Icon

    Nov 8, 2007
    I think we made a math error. Since D* will probably pay a price between $2.65 and $3 to Viacom for each customer, they will at most realize a net savings of $0.35 per month per customer while they continue to give out over $5 per month per customer.

    So $0.35 x 60 vs. $5 x 3 is the best case, and D* is great.

    But $0.15 x 60 vs. $6 x 3 is more realistic (added $1 to account for free 6 months Showtime and NFLST), D* is losing their shirt. Luckily not everyone is calling in for the discount.

    I think they'll settle in two or three days anyway. I also think this will be the new way these negotiations are held in the future. Both sides throwing their customer/viewers under the bus.
  5. mnassour

    mnassour Icon

    Apr 23, 2002

    I've personally seen better than 20 on my Verizon 4g and as little as 2. The issue with Verizon 4g is that it's extremely (at least in my market) variable, from time to time and place to place. It can be really, really, nice....but it's not consistent enough to serve as a full-time ISP.

    (EDIT LATER: Just did speakeasy.net/speedtest. Connected to the Dallas server from Austin. Phone is a Droid Razr Maxx. Got 27.59 down, 12.17 up. But that won't last. I'd take a picture but, well, the phone's my camera!)

    But to jump back to topic :), after last night's Daily Show, I'm not sure how Viacom could have continued keeping the full episodes off the web. Stewart was spitting blood. The last thing Viacom needs is DirecTV shooting at them from the front, and Stewart from the rear. And for some reason, I think more people watch Stewart than read DirecTV press releases.
  6. Ira Lacher

    Ira Lacher Icon

    Apr 24, 2002

    I believe it is our business because corporate profits have become nearly totally divorced from customer satisfaction. The publicly held corporation's priorities are:
    • Major investors (such as mutual funds, etc.)
    • Major shareholders -- of preferred stock and of large blocks of common stock
    • Lenders
    • Officers
    • Minor investors -- those who have a few shares of stock
    • Customers -- those who but the corporation's products or services
    And there is a huge gap between minor investors and customers, who constantly get lost in the slipstream of corporate policies designed to please the first five.
  7. shendley

    shendley Hall Of Fame

    Nov 27, 2005
    Just called and asked directv to help me defray the cost of a roku streaming device to get Stewart and Colbert while the dispute goes on. Was initially offered a $10 credit for 3 months, then he topped it off with a $5 credit for 3 months. Doesn't quite cover my costs but I'm content.
  8. Tubaman-Z

    Tubaman-Z Godfather

    Jul 30, 2007
    Yep. There are a myriad of considerations of which I have no knowledge. Thus my outsider perspective is limited to public statements, hearsay, guesses, and my own experience. Kind of the same information sources as 99% of the participants of this discussion. And therefore subject to the same kinds of errors.

    My experience is that D*'s suggesting on-line sources for programming coupled with the demonstration of an HD Roku got me looking at alternative content sources. The Viacom dispute had nothing (directly) to do with it (i.e. I don't value their programming that much). While the price is compelling (Roku HD + HuluPlus + NetFlix vs. my D* bill), I value my live sports (Bears, Twins, Purdue football and basketball) too much to cut the cord at this time.
  9. Tubaman-Z

    Tubaman-Z Godfather

    Jul 30, 2007
    Is that the channel for people who only want 1/8 of the available programming?
  10. F1 Fan

    F1 Fan Icon

    Aug 28, 2007
    My mistake - was a typo. I meant 20M not 30M. And yes I get 17+ quite often.

    I use it a lot as my home DSL cannot get better than 1.5/384k so I watch a lot over 4G on my devices and plugged into HDMI.

    So in my rural household I can (and did last summer for about 6 months then signed back up with Directv in December 2011) watch all I needed in our household via 4G.

    EDIT: Speedtest on my Droid Bionic from College Station To Waco was 17.4 down then the second time was 21.3 down. Cant do a screen capture on this.
  11. mitchflorida

    mitchflorida Godfather

    May 18, 2009
    if you are smart, you will pocket the money and just watch their shows for free on Comedy Central's website. LOL
  12. mnassour

    mnassour Icon

    Apr 23, 2002
    Indeed, now that Stewart NAILED Viacom last night, that's once again an alternative! :lol:
  13. renbutler

    renbutler Godfather

    Oct 17, 2008
    That's a hell of a blanket statement there. It's also quite absurd in a discussion about a company that continually excels in customer service ratings.

    I specifically said that it becomes our business when they're breaking the law. But that has NOTHING to do with the DirecTV/Viacom dispute.
  14. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 24, 2007
    A couple of times we've strayed a bit too close to politics. As a reminder, lets not go there.

  15. SParker

    SParker Active Member

    Apr 27, 2002
  16. darkpowrjd

    darkpowrjd Mentor

    Jul 10, 2012
    Might not be any new news to report other than the readditions of the webisodes.

    However, I didn't see anything about a fallout on any site yet. Just that they are getting closer to something happening. It does get annoying that nothing gets said on the sites that they said we should be getting updates from. I personally would love for something to get resolved so we can stop talking about it already.

    That and we can get those banners on the guide to go away. Seriously, the lag when I scroll through the pages because they have to tell me where every single Viacom channel went to are annoying as all hell! Maybe it's a good sign, though, that some of those banners have disappeared. Perhaps that is a sign that this could come to a conclusion sooner than we all think.
  17. Fraaaak

    Fraaaak Legend

    Jul 13, 2009
    Kind of thought he nailed both Viacom and DirecTV, as well he should have.
  18. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    From DirecTV's FB post, sounds like they think a breakthru has been had and they're getting close.
  19. tulanejosh

    tulanejosh Godfather

    May 23, 2008
    agree. "very soon" "draw closer" "finalize details". those are all positive words.
  20. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Yeah. I love my roku. Have had one for quite some time (early adopter). It has its limits but it is great for old shows and movies.

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