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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. maartena

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    "very soon" falls under the same category as the word described in my signature.

    They could use "incredibly absolutely amazingly superduper very very VERY really VERY soon", and it would still not tell us anything about..... when. :p
     
  2. tulanejosh

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    i hear ya
     
  3. Xsabresx

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    We wouldnt want people to be optimistic or anything. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Carl Spock

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    A settlement has to be soon, within the next week. This isn't that tough.

    From posts in this thread, DirecTV and Viacom aren't that far apart money-wise. That's not that big a deal. In fact, I'm not sure what the big deal is.

    Viacom, come up with the one big thing you must have in an agreement, your deal-breaker. DirecTV, do the same. Almost certainly they won't be the same issue. I could see Viacom saying they need $X.YZ per subscriber to hit their nut and make money. DirecTV might say their most pressing need is to put some channels in upper tier packages where they could charge more for them. Glory be! We have the makings of a negotiation here! Add some new channels into the equation so that both sides can look forward to additional revenue streams and wrap this puppy tonight.

    My biggest fear is that sanity will not rule the day. These two have been snipping at each other like it's high school. The worst has been Viacom. Their public pranks make me worry that the anti-sales department has taken charge there. If it has, forget reasonableness. We are in for a long slog, with a resolution months away.

    Let's pray that rational heads are at the negotiating table.
     
  5. shendley

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    Yeah, but Hulu via Roku looks much better on my plasma than Comedy Central's website looks on my computer.

     
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    I wonder if Viacom realizes that this has turned into a PR disaster and is now just trying to figure out how to "save face." Anyone objective person who knows both sides of this can only conclude that Viacom is the villain here and I am sure Viacom fully realizes this.
     
  8. dpeters11

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    With how public this has been so far, I really hope when the contract is done, it's not just "terms were not disclosed."
     
  9. tonyd79

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    It will be.
     
  10. ciurca

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    Half a mile from my front door I push 30mb per second. Inside my house my vzw 4g is usually around 10/5. A vz tech told me the 4 g signal fades more dramatically from towers compared to 3g. FWIW, if I didn't have 4 computers a Wii and an Xbox I would tether my unlimited data plan. But as it is I need our Comcast which is usually testing at 50/5-6.
    Regarding Viacom, my kids are losing patience.

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  11. zimm7778

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    I have 75/35 from Verizon FIOS. Is that what we are talking about or actual DSL service?
     
  12. maartena

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    Might be that Viacom wants DirecTV to carry *all* their channels, not just the ones DirecTV has now.

    or....

    It could be that they want Epix to be in the same deal, something that DirecTV explicitly has refused in the past.

    or....

    Perhaps Viacom wants more stations in HD, and DirecTV's bandwidth is pretty limited at the moment, and they rather use it for something else.

    or....

    They want certain channels in certain packages. Often, demanding more money is not the only demand, they might also want to have some of the channels moved to a lower tier, as that means more access, more viewers, thus more advertising income.

    There are probably a lot of ifs, and/or buts in this deal.... money is by far the only consideration, if it was JUST money, they could just haggle pawn-star style for a day, and call it a deal.
     
  13. ciurca

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    Talking about 4g wireless internet.
     
  14. maartena

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    Well, let me disappoint you ahead of time. No one outside of DirecTV or Viacom will never know.

    And there is good reasons both don't want that information out in the public:

    - Viacom doesn't want other carriers to know how much it is receiving from DirecTV, else the other carriers have a base price to go off of. (In this case, it could be Viacom has to come down more than they would like to just to get the channels lit again).

    - DirecTV doesn't want other media companies to know how much it is paying for Viacom channels, otherwise they would be able to compare content/channels/ratings and come up with their own figures. (In this case, it could be DirecTV is going to pay more than they would like just to get the channels lit again).

    In short: Count on "terms were not disclosed".

    At least we won't know the financial details. Whether other agreements were made (e.g. more channels, more HD, package changes) we'll find out eventually. :D
     
  15. Carl Spock

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    That's exactly what I'm saying, maartena. Money isn't the big issue. Once you admit and settle that, these other things can be worked out. Maybe DirecTV doesn't put more up Viacom HD channels until Direct 14 is launched. Maybe EPIX is a higher tier channel. The rest of these things are open for negotiation - and forget either company's previous stands because when it comes to these secondary issues, my starting point is that only one thing is a deal breaker per side and we settle those up front - and the two sides work it out. Yes, it might take a few more days. Maybe I am over-optimistic thinking it would take one evening. And certainly both sides would want to run any proposed settlement past a bevy of lawyers and accountants. But that's what negotiations are all about: Getting past previous roadblocks and finding a solution that allows both sides to win.
     
  16. DodgerKing

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    That is why it records channel 8241 instead of just 241.
     
  17. DodgerKing

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    Their last good song. After that they got poppy and sucky.
     
  18. Laxguy

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    And are not those "recordings" of the DIRECTV® logo empty, taking up probably less than a couple of Megabytes?
     
  19. tonyd79

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    Not empty. Probably small but they do have music. Since they don't move, the video portion is probably very small.
     
  20. chrisexv6

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    When will then be now?

    SOON!
     

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