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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jul 10, 2012 #221 of 3058

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    Considering DirecTV isn't the one doing the yanking, Viacom is, I don't see how they would look bad to advertisers. If anything Viacom would look bad to advertisers. The advertisers pay Viacom, not DirecTV.
  2. Jul 10, 2012 #222 of 3058

    Santi360HD Icon

    Oct 6, 2008
    New York City
    whatever & whom-ever is pulling the plug...There is no political way to polish it off..losing this many in 1 bulk is bad...no matter how you slice it
  3. Jul 10, 2012 #223 of 3058

    old7 Godfather

    Dec 1, 2005
    Viacom makes most of their shows available on Hulu and/or Netflix. Why should DirecTV pay a premium price for watered-down content.
  4. Jul 10, 2012 #224 of 3058

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    I know if there is no agreement and midnight they go dark if an agreement is not reached. That was posted right on Facebook by Directv!
  5. Jul 10, 2012 #225 of 3058

    DViper2399 AllStar

    Jul 16, 2008
    I would probably be ok in paying a little extra to have Mtv eliminated from Dtv, but on a serious note my son watch's Nick & I watch a lot of Comedy Central so I would be upset if lost, on the + side maybe new contracts will bring some new viacom owned HD
  6. Jul 10, 2012 #226 of 3058

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    Thats fine they can drop them, But I want my bill dropped then too. No big deal.
  7. Jul 10, 2012 #227 of 3058

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD

    Not exactly a topical show....

    And Netflix is in HD-ish.
  8. Jul 10, 2012 #228 of 3058

    Santi360HD Icon

    Oct 6, 2008
    New York City

    this is the reason I have 2 providers at my bar D* and TWC. I will pay out the wazoo to have both because I refuse that both companies try to dictate to me how to run my business by ruining it. My bar had the Knicks while Time Warner pulled it early this year, brought more business for me because D* wasnt affected..While the current threat has absolutely no implications to any sports. My sympathies go out to anyone affected by this alleged pull.
  9. Jul 10, 2012 #229 of 3058

    TheDaddy Cool Member

    May 7, 2008
    I hope it gets worked out without an outage. My kids watch the various nick channels and I enjoy Tosh.0, Workaholics, Daily Show, South Park, Teen Wolf etc...also enjoy Paladia because it plays lots of UK groups live that get no play here like Kasabian etc...shows festivals like Isle of Wight, Glastonbury etc...
  10. Jul 10, 2012 #230 of 3058
    Max Mike

    Max Mike AllStar

    Oct 18, 2008
    Hold the line DirecTV do not give a inch.
  11. Jul 10, 2012 #231 of 3058
    Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia
    To me it comes down to where do you draw the line?

    I pay DirecTV to be my TV provider. If I feel the need to get a second or third source for entertainment, then the worth of DirecTV is devalued in my mind.

    Like I stated, I won't be happy if they're pulled tonight, but I don't feel that Viacom is justified in this large of a price increase either, so I support whatever DirecTV can do to fight it.

  12. Jul 10, 2012 #232 of 3058

    gphvid Godfather

    Jun 19, 2007
    It is basically simple. The price point where subscribers will no longer pay because it is too high has been reached already. Viacom and the other providers need to know this. AMC is beginning to get a clue from DISH. SOI Viacom needs the same treatment. They think that they can get these price increases every time stating whatever market factor they wish to present. But the fact remains that the bottom line for consumers is the overall monthly cost which always goes higher.

    DirecTV hit the high price point about 2 years ago, and increases since have cause defections to start. They are right to stand in the way of these big increase requests at least for their own business. Because, without the subscribers, neither DirecTV nor Viacom has an audience...
  13. Jul 10, 2012 #233 of 3058

    darkpowrjd Mentor

    Jul 10, 2012
    Well, the "my way or the highway" thing doesn't work, either, because then they will not have anything on their service. Viacom isn't in any position to negotiate such a high rate increase (assuming that's what's going on: each side is going to try to spin things so people will think the other side is the bad guy), but at the same time, we don't need DTV to become like Dish in that they don't ever budge for anyone. That kind of thing has made Dish subs lost AMC and a good bit of locals so far (the latter is if the WFMJ FAQ is accurate). DTV doesn't have to be like that. Find some kind of middle ground, and keep finding some way to make everyone happy.

    Yeah, Dish is doing the "my way or the highway" routine way too many times now. It's killing their PR. DTV needs to NOT be Dish!
  14. Jul 10, 2012 #234 of 3058

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    If you called during the blackout of the Tribune channels back in may, which lasted about 3 days I think, you would get a $5 discount on your bill for that month. I am willing to bet that if these channels stay offline for DirecTV, and you give them a call they will give you a similar credit for each month the channels are not there.

    I have found DirecTV to be fairly helpful in that regard if your account is in good standing.
  15. Jul 10, 2012 #235 of 3058

    vobguy Mentor

    Jun 9, 2009

    I haven't seen a full listing of the affected channels, but so far the ones highlighted in the news won't really be missed in my household.

    We watch Spike a little (basically, when one of the Star Wars movies is on) but the commercials on it are so bad I can't watch it with the kids.

    The kids used to watch NickJr but haven't in a while, Noggin is about all of the kids shows they watch, now everything else is DVD. :lol:

    I agree with DirecTV on this, if they want big rate increases, then let us pick alacarte from the Viacom channels. Because I think I would happily pick "None of the Above"
  16. Jul 10, 2012 #236 of 3058

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Blocked?? Blocked you say? Almost certainly, V-com will tell DIRECTV® to stop broadcasting their stuff if DIRECTV® doesn't meet their demands for mo' money. So, it'd be the other way around.....
  17. Jul 10, 2012 #237 of 3058

    Darcaine Legend

    Aug 31, 2009
    I'm just glad its not AMC on the chopping block. I don't care if all the viacom channels go away permanately, especially if I got BBC HD in return as that one HD channel would be worth giving up all of viacoms channels, for me personally.
  18. Jul 10, 2012 #238 of 3058

    SHS Legend

    Jan 7, 2003
    Vinita, OK
    The way I see it is television provider would like nothing better then to keep the stations without paying anything over rated extra like they are wanting if ture 30% hike, so they won't pull the feeds. Viacom will pull the feeds, so if they are no longer visible on television provider, then we people need point are finger at ceo at viacom. After all there one getting a bit over greedy, they can decide to leave the channels up while they negotiate.
    How ever if they are unwlling to negotiate then I say tell to just f$%k off after all it viacom lost and all other television provider both cable and sat should tell them big media company where to it stick it then sooner or later thoses big media company will fail or stop trying to so f$%king greedy man I'm all really getting sick of hearing this carp ever 6 month more memory.
    Come on people it not end world and try sicking to your gun's or we all end up with higher bill.
    Yes I miss a few channel.
    How ever if Viacom only really only dose want an small increase of a couple of pennies per day per subscriber then I see nothing wrong 0.40 to 0.60 increase per month with that then we need point are finger at ceo at DirecTV or we can all just switch over to Dishnetwork:D even this dosen't make very happy at all.
    How ever both of them don't need be greedy or uncut each other.
  19. Jul 10, 2012 #239 of 3058

    darkpowrjd Mentor

    Jul 10, 2012
    AMC is in a different position, though. DISH played a dirty trick to spin things their way in the remaining weeks of the channel being on the service. They did that quiet channel change so viewers couldn't find it and then say "see, no one noticed you were gone". Umm, YEAH THEY DID! Hard to watch a channel if you can't FIND the damn thing! Dish did that in a deliberate attempt to cook the books to make it seem as though AMC didn't have the support that they said they did. Not to mention that there could be more involved into why they pulled AMC than just price rates (competition, past grudges, etc.).

    With DTV, there's the sole thing about what we, and they, should pay for the service. AFAIK, there's currently no other issue standing in the way of Viacom and DTV being happy as long as they can work out something on the price issue. Viacom doesn't own a cable company that can directly compete with DTV or anything like that. Just money, and that's usually the biggest enemy for a lot of Americans.
  20. Jul 10, 2012 #240 of 3058

    meldar_b Mentor

    May 16, 2006
    lets see what corporate creed at work will get them axed, a 30% increase is to much to pay for mostly rerun channels don't this so :nono2:

    Spike - the only channel I'd miss
    MTV *- not worth watching
    MTV2 *- not worth watching
    VH1 *- not worth watching
    VH1 Classic - I'll miss metal...but reruns
    CMT *- not worth watching
    BET *- not worth watching
    Palladia *- not worth watching I don't pay for this extra hd channel anyway
    Logo *- not worth watching
    Comedy - nope don't do this
    oneNick - needs to be playing outside learning by doing
    Nick Jr - needs to be playing outside learning by doing
    Teenick - needs to be playing outside learning by doing
    NickToons - needs to be playing outside learning by doing
    Centric - never heard of this so it must be - not worth watching

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