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DirecTV/Viacom Dispute?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by danpeters, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. tonyd79

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    I don't have numbers but it is fewer than directv projected when it started. How much fewer, I don't know.
     
  2. JeffBowser

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    Pffft. I don't care what either of them do. All I've missed is a few episodes of Horsepower TV, but I can stare at Courtney online if I need to :D
     
  3. JcT21

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    i was reading some of the directv facebook posts and seen this one that caught my attention....

    "dish network carries epix and the other viacom channels we are missing. how is it they can carry epix and sitll keep their prices similar or somewhat lower than directv prices? what is directvs issue with carrying epix?"

    i can see the point that the facebook poster was making. why is directv opposed to epix?
     
  4. zimm7778

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    The only way any of the leagues could forego pay tv is by allowing all games including the local one to be available. Plus, a large bulk of revenue for the leagues comes from network deals who in term sell it to providers. I would suspect MLB for instance makes way more from the RSNs, ESPN, and FOX than they ever will from MLB.tv.
     
  5. Carl Spock

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    :listenup: Well, I say they will be back by Saturday night...so there! :raspberry

    Would I lie to you?

    ;) :p
     
  6. Athlon646464

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    The timing for the end of each provider's contract is different. My guess is that Dish may face a similar issue when their Viacom contract is up, unless Viacom learns some sort of lesson here.
     
  7. zimm7778

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    Perhaps they aren't totally opposed to it but don't want it where Viacom does. Again I could be wrong but I think if Viacom agreed to let the channel be a premium service they'd have no problem adding it. Then if Viacoms deal causes the channel to be $30 a month, oh well. Only those who want it would have to pay it. However there's another fallacy in this argument about price. Right off the top of my head I know Dish isn't carrying AMC or MLB Network unless that's changed. There may be others but that could be why they are about even in price. EPIX could cost a lot and the programming costs are offset by some they don't have. Theres also the agreement of the amount of the deal that could and probably does per provider. Also, Dish seems to be the place to go for movies so they may hide some of the actual programming cost elsewhere to placate the audience, It's not just comparing the channels and price of one to another unless both are totally equal.
     
  8. BobbyK

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    EPIX is $7.00 a month on E*.
     
  9. tonyd79

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    You are correct.

    At one time, directv saw little value in Epix when it was new and I could see their point. They werent even sure it would survive.

    Now Epix has grown and seems decent an directv seems to want it.
     
  10. tulanejosh

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    They need to readd them (eventually) if they expect me to keep paying what i pay. I know that it's unrealistic that they will cut my bill... But they should also know that its unrealistic to expect me to continue to pay the same amount for less service. That it's available on Hulu, etc - to me - doesn't matter. I pay directv because of the convenience factor they provide not because of the access.
     
  11. Athlon646464

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    Curious - If D* caved today and paid a lot more for the Viacom stuff, would you then pay your fair share of the increase?

    BTW - You can call D* and likely get some sort of a discount just because you call them, and you can enjoy the free movie channels they have given to us for now.
     
  12. zimm7778

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    I was most likely exaggerating the price. The point was I would imagine if they wanted it to be a premium stand alone and funded by its those who sub to it only Directv would have no problem. But again, I could very well be wrong on this.
     
  13. tonyd79

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    $10 on fios with one SD and two HD channels.
     
  14. SPACEMAKER

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    False.
     
  15. lparsons21

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    Yes, it is. It is also available in the $10/month BB@Home package too, which includes quite a few other channels, and one disk out at a time DVDs.
     
  16. zimm7778

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    You know things go up every year. So if next year Directv said "yeah our prices in programming went up but since we don't have Viacom anymore we are not paying them at all so the increase in fees is offset by the loss of those channels. Therefore, your bill will not go up" wouldn't satisfy you? This is of course under the scenario they don't come back.
     
  17. tulanejosh

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    I'm not necessarily the best person to ask that question to. My monthly bill is exceeds $200 because of my sports subscriptions, add-ons and programming tier. Those are all personal choices that i and my family make, and I dont think i would make a single change if my bill increase by $10 a year. I'm not trying to be cavalier or flippant with money. People all have different circumstances, and I absolutely 100% respect that. I dont want to pay more, but if that's what happens... I'll deal with it. You asked the question - im giving you an honest answer.

    But it's not really about what i wouldn't or wouldn't be willing to pay though. It's about what i currently pay. Viacom is factored into my current bill. I think this dispute is temporary, but fact remains Viacom is still factored into my bill even though i currently don't get them. if that continues long term - it's becomes a "principle of the thing" issue for me just like "any increase" is a principle of the thing issue for so many other people.

    I did get a $10 discount, and Im grateful for that. But free movie channels, MLB, etc are of no benefit to me. I had those before this dispute.
     
  18. woj027

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    Is there an easy place to figure out who all the providers are for the channels? Is Disney the largest?,is Viacom second? Third? 10th? Where is HBO? Turner?

    I think it would be interesting to see who owns all the channels.

    I wonder how consolidation
    will work on that end of the spectrum.
     
  19. tulanejosh

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    Im not saying im dissatisfied. Im saying it cant go on forever. By that rationale - the increase shouldn't go up by quite as much. Would probably be ok with that. But that's very subjective, no way to know how much it could have gone up by if they had viacom in that instance.
     

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